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Old 3 Mar 2009, 17:23 (Ref:2408254)   #1
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McLaren and Force India

Is there more of 'borrowing' of parts from McLaren to Force India than a gearbox???

Note the front geometery on the two cars.


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Old 3 Mar 2009, 17:24 (Ref:2408255)   #2
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Ah, you've fixed it.

But yes, the front suspension is identical.
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Old 3 Mar 2009, 18:50 (Ref:2408306)   #3
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Old 3 Mar 2009, 18:56 (Ref:2408308)   #4
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What always amazes me is that although they are using the same engine, they have totally different airbox designs.

The only time I remember teams using the same airbox design is when Ferrari and Sauber ad obviously worked together and the Sauber was a copy of the previous years Ferrari ? 2004 I think?
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In order to use the McLaren engine/gearbox/KERS package FI had to re-do the whole rear suspension which was designed for the Ferrari package originally.Changing the rear suspension design affects the front suspension design,and so we see what we see.
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Old 5 Mar 2009, 16:45 (Ref:2409693)   #7
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That is a rare picture. the Mclaren with a 2009 rear wing on it LOL
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I'm struggling to see it, I'm afraid. Those pictures don't really demonstrate that they are the same. Actually looking at the lower wishbone mount it seems quite different due to the differing noses. You can't tell for certain, but for me the Force India has it mounted higher.

I can't tell if they are running the same camber, but it wouldn't surprise me as they are both on the same tyres.

They are broadly similar, like all F1 cars:
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/123337
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/123282
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This article may help.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73500

Particularly this.

"Coincidentally many of the design features are also seen on the new McLaren Mercedes."

Having looked at the above pictures though,there are some differences.
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That doesn't refer to the geometry though.
It does also compare the rear shape to the Renault and points out areas similar to the Toyota too.
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I don't think there's much to this, especially in terms of legality.
If Force India are using the McMercadies rear end including suspension then i'd imagine their mathmatics would lead them to a very similar front end.
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Old 6 Mar 2009, 10:13 (Ref:2410203)   #12
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From the pictures in yesterday's Autosport compared to similar well-lit pics of the McLaren they are as different as any other two cars IMO.
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