what about Pre 63 Saloons...

simon drabble · 27 Aug 2009, 07:04 (Ref:2529014)

Everyone seems in agreement that the pre 63 GT race at the classic was a great success why not extend this theory and run a pre 63 saloon race - no V8's and the return of Zephyrs, Zodiac's etc... along with mini's and Anglia's running with more similar power..

**Peter Mallett** · 27 Aug 2009, 07:14 (Ref:2529019)

Oldies but Goldies?

simon drabble · 27 Aug 2009, 07:17 (Ref:2529021)

are they not pre 60 which is a very different genre - no mini's, anglia's or mk2 Jaguars

GORDON STREETER · 27 Aug 2009, 07:22 (Ref:2529023)

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon drabble

Everyone seems in agreement that the pre 63 GT race at the classic was a great success why not extend this theory and run a pre 63 saloon race - no V8's and the return of Zephyrs, Zodiac's etc... along with mini's and Anglia's running with more similar power..

To whose rules ? HRSR maybe. Anglia's and Mini's were both launched in 1959.

simon drabble · 27 Aug 2009, 07:24 (Ref:2529027)

1200 Anglia against 998 mini...

terence · 27 Aug 2009, 07:29 (Ref:2529032)

Was the 1200 pre 63? I only ask because I cannot remember.

GORDON STREETER · 27 Aug 2009, 07:33 (Ref:2529033)

It depends on if people wanted to go pot hunting or not ? as a mini is a lot more developed now as a 1200 Anglia ever was.
I know it is only a suggestion at the moment but it would cause a few upsets unless it was policed properly.

simon drabble · 27 Aug 2009, 07:38 (Ref:2529034)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

I know it is only a suggestion at the moment but it would cause a few upsets unless it was policed properly.

aren't upsets are a prerequisite for any historic seres?!

GORDON STREETER · 27 Aug 2009, 07:45 (Ref:2529036)

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Originally Posted by simon drabble

aren't upsets are a prerequisite for any historic seres?!

True there seems very few today

Terry the 1200 came out in 1962.

**Peter Mallett** · 27 Aug 2009, 07:48 (Ref:2529040)

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Originally Posted by simon drabble

are they not pre 60 which is a very different genre - no mini's, anglia's or mk2 Jaguars

You need to read the regs.

But wasn't the 2.4 Mk2 1957 (ish)?

john ruston · 27 Aug 2009, 07:48 (Ref:2529041)

You do it by invitation only and anyone who screws about leaves.

As Ness and Flav series is now policed

zefarelly · 27 Aug 2009, 08:08 (Ref:2529051)

until 63 the MK2 was king, early 63 it was being hassled by Cortina GT's then later Galaxies and later still Lotus Cortinas . . . . so going pre 63 would give you Rapiers ( and rootes equivalents) Riley/Wossley 1500 (MGB) 1L minis and 1L Anglias, or 1200's, you could run a 1200 delux Cortina, a 1500 Ford classic/capri maybe, or 1340cc if you wehere brave. the pube didn't come out until 63, a Zodiac might be comfy.

IF it goes like every other series it would turn into a 2 horse race, minis and MK2 JAgs, the potentially competitive cars which have been over developed for 40 years, like we see Mustangs in big banger racing and LC's/GTA's in U2TC and little else Its all a bit repetetive and boring at the moment

terence · 27 Aug 2009, 08:17 (Ref:2529056)

Thanks Gordon,memory block!

simon drabble · 27 Aug 2009, 08:18 (Ref:2529057)

I think the answer is in the governance. The reason that teh pre 63 GT race was so susccessful was because the committee took the view that over developed cars were not encouraged... as JR said you have it by invitation

fasted · 27 Aug 2009, 08:24 (Ref:2529061)

1962 "Motor Six Hours"
http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jon...s%20Hatch.html
I`ll get my flat cap and long mac

**Peter Mallett** · 27 Aug 2009, 08:27 (Ref:2529064)

Just a suggestion,

Can we keep the "cheating", poor governance points, whinges about those nasty V8s for the relevant threads please?

This is about the possibility of running pre 63 saloons and I suppose which vehicles could enter. And why can't it have its own regs rather than HRSR/OBG etc?

Fasted,

All the culprits are there aren't they?

Morris 1100, MG ditto. Sunbeam Rapier, 1300(?) Anglia, Morris Cooper and 3.8 Jaguar?

zefarelly · 27 Aug 2009, 08:34 (Ref:2529068)

Franks site is excellent for checking what really ran in period.

those of you desperate for a pot, form an orderly queue for a Chevrolet Chevy!

perhaps Goodwood should have a look as well

Alfa Giullietta 1300 is another option

simon drabble · 27 Aug 2009, 08:35 (Ref:2529070)

anyone else up for a 6 hour saloon race as per that grid..
form an orderly queue pls - thank goodness I have got a mk2 3.8 ;o)

**Peter Mallett** · 27 Aug 2009, 08:37 (Ref:2529071)

Not sure about six hours Simon. Your back will get really sore rolling around that Zodiac bench seat with only the column change to hang onto!

fasted · 27 Aug 2009, 08:48 (Ref:2529079)

Please! rolling about on bench bench seats in a Zodiac is for a different type of forum completely

zefarelly · 27 Aug 2009, 08:48 (Ref:2529080)

I think I'd take the David Haynes route

Zephyr, with heater, and Radio

and a tin of Gold block

**Peter Mallett** · 27 Aug 2009, 08:51 (Ref:2529081)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fasted

Please! rolling about on bench bench seats in a Zodiac is for a different type of forum completely

Yes, sorry completely got away from me. You'd be hanging onto the sun visors.

Of course you could fit one of those perspex wind shields so you can drive with the window down and not get a draught. Thereby removing the Gold Block odours.

simon drabble · 27 Aug 2009, 08:52 (Ref:2529083)

well all we have to do know is persuade Messrs Twyman and Cussons and we are in business!!
re the Zodiac do Demon Tweeks make a faux leopard skin rollcage cover?!

zefarelly · 27 Aug 2009, 08:57 (Ref:2529087)

the discussion has been had before, but anyone with a decent budget and a desperation for recognition will always migrate to the most competitive car . . . which is why we rarely see the cars being mentioned in pre66 saloons.

morris traveller . . . mattress in the back. Ash roll cage comes as standard !

**Peter Mallett** · 27 Aug 2009, 09:02 (Ref:2529091)

I see a business opportunity here. Build and entire grid and hire them out. Extra for leopardskin steering wheel covers of course.

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