Old Timer GP

[dr46rossi]

Now it is fix and at the 2014 AvD Oldtimer Grand Prix 8-10 August at Nuerburgring, there will be a race for Formula3 cars 1964-1984.

The race will have four classes:

Class A: Formula3 1000ccm, 1964-1970
Class B: Formula3 1600ccm, 1971-1973
Class C: Formula3 2000ccm, 1974-1978
Class D: Formula3 2000ccm, 1979-1984

We will have two practices on Friday and one race at saturday.

The entry forms will be online soon at the AvD OGP homepage or the www.HRA-Online.de webpage.

It would be great to have a nice field of F3 cars.

For more Informations you can contact me.
Marcel@Biehl-racing.de
cheers

[delta]

Very tempting Marcel

[terence]

Even more so with FREE B&B.

[Peter Mallett]

Masters:

http://www.themastersseries.com/even...o-2014/item/62

[kickstart]

I note the HF2 are also racing so hopefully we can combine another attempt at the Old Timer GP with a run in the F2 race

[Mike Bell]

I know someone will be able to point me in the right direction to get the low down on the Historic Marathon held on the Nordshleife on the Friday or Saturday. I don't seem to be able to access the AvD website via iPad for some reason.....

I watched some of the race last year and it has to be on the bucket list- maybe 2015- but I can't remember the car categories eligible!

Any help appreciated.

[kickstart]

This is the website that gives spectator info

https://www.avd.de/ogpracing/english/

For entries it is on http://www.fhr-langstreckencup.de/

The entry criteria is pre 66 - so anything from a Mini Cooper to GT40 - same as the Spa 6 hours

Provided we fix our gearbox problem in the Grantura we should be there giving it another go...

[Mike Bell]

Thanks! The AvD site requires flash player so have accessed with compooter rather than tablet thingy. All the regs etc are on there. The Nurburgring Trophy race (2 instead of 4hr?) combined with the Marathon takes cars up to 1976, so gives me more opportunity to find something suitable. Planning for 2015 starts now......

[HRSTR5]

Hi Mike,

We ran the TR5 in the Nurburgring Trophy (NT) in 2011, really enjoyed it! Our first ever endurance race. Quali in the morning and race in the afternoon, get drunk in the evening!

I started my 'research' the year before, and was at the OGP in 2010 so i did a load of asking around, and watched some of the race to get an idea of what was running, how refuelling worked, that kind of stuff.

2011 the race was held on the combined Nordschliefe and GP Track, but i think it was the last time they did it that way. I would have entered in 2012 and '13 but was majoring on the FJ those times, and the timetables made it impossible for anyone to run in both, now that separate tracks were being used. Shame for me.

They do change the format and race lengths every year - no idea why. The year we did it the Nurburgring Trophy race which started and ran concurrently with the Marathon was 3:30mins, and the Marathon went on just 30mins longer.

We ran the race on my usual Yoko AO48rs, which were the most prevalent tyres we saw in the NT classes, even though it wasn't exactly clear from the regs that they were permissible!

It was wet, dry, very wet, dry etc, you know how it goes there! Couple of photos attached.

[skentellytubby]

We are in for this, lordy all the hotels are booked up!! Anyone know of anywhere that still has space?

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by HRSTR5

They do change the format and race lengths every year - no idea why. The year we did it the Nurburgring Trophy race which started and ran concurrently with the Marathon was 3:30mins, and the Marathon went on just 30mins longer.

We ran the race on my usual Yoko AO48rs.

Thanks for that James! This year both the NT and HM appear to be 240 minutes long, and I am guessing that the NT tyre regs allow list 1b tyres. From memory the Marathon requires L's unless the race is declared wet, then ZZs can be used.

Reading up on the Oldtimer races, it pays to look past the UK promoter's offerings! The 'Revival German Racing Championship' covers Gp2, 4 and 5 cars from 1972 to '81, so that's one for Canary, race 5 is for '2 seater race cars and GTs up to 1960/61', so 1959 Morgan possibly eligible, then to the Nordschleife with Gilbern for the Marathon or Gp1 RS2 for the Nurburgring Trophy! Could easily spend a season's budget at the one meeting......

[HRSTR5]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Reading up on the Oldtimer races, it pays to look past the UK promoter's offerings! The 'Revival German Racing Championship' covers Gp2, 4 and 5 cars from 1972 to '81, so that's one for Canary, race 5 is for '2 seater race cars and GTs up to 1960/61', so 1959 Morgan possibly eligible, then to the Nordschleife with Gilbern for the Marathon or Gp1 RS2 for the Nurburgring Trophy! Could easily spend a season's budget at the one meeting......

Fill that whole truck up just for you to play with … why a huge weekend … big danger of high stress loads, but awesome if it all came off!

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by HRSTR5

Fill that whole truck up just for you to play with … why a huge weekend … big danger of high stress loads, but awesome if it all came off!

I remember last year the slightly bizarre sight of two cars belonging to same owner on different tracks at same time! While the owner was doing his stint on Nordschleife his co driver legged it back to the paddock and then went out to qualify another car on the GP track! I could see both from the Marathon refuelling area.....

Bit too much stress for me!

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

I remember last year the slightly bizarre sight of two cars belonging to same owner on different tracks at same time! While the owner was doing his stint on Nordschleife his co driver legged it back to the paddock and then went out to qualify another car on the GP track! I could see both from the Marathon refuelling area.....

Bit too much stress for me!

Mike, what you really, really need is a young hot-shoe, like me, -no, no, I can't go on, modesty prevails

[FISCracer]

Anyone else going out to this?

We are doing the Marathon - assuming I survive 2 races at the Gamma Racing days at Assen this weekend.

[delta]

Delta crew will be there. I normaly put on a few pounds.. Steak in the Piston Clous and Hostility in the paddock. O yea the bitburgers might have something to do with it as well.

[grantp]

Originally Posted by delta

Delta crew will be there. I normaly put on a few pounds.. Steak in the Piston Clous and Hostility in the paddock.

[terence]

Originally Posted by delta

Delta crew will be there. I normaly put on a few pounds.. Steak in the Piston Clous and Hostility in the paddock. O yea the bitburgers might have something to do with it as well.

So no hospitality in Christas Imbiss?
DMSB Int C just arrived, funny but its something Ive always wanted.

[john ruston]

Last year we did Pre 61 GT race

Hour on Saturday evening and half hour Sunday morning

Good stuff!

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by terence

DMSB Int C just arrived, funny but its something Ive always wanted.

Glad it's something you've always wanted, as I don't know what the heck it is!

John, those pre 61 race look good. Noted for next year!

[terence]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Glad it's something you've always wanted, as I don't know what the heck it is!

John, those pre 61 race look good. Noted for next year!

Mike, its the German Int C licence.My UK one expires this year so thought I might as well get the German version now I have a permanent German address.Difference is its a pushbike ride for six minutes, very relaxed affair in applying for it.Highly recommended

[PeteJ]

Hi all,

A bit late ... but due to a change of plans, I have x3 hotel rooms available at the Nurburgring Dorint from Wednesday to Sunday and also x5 rooms at Hotel an der Nordschleife (much cheaper!) also Wednesday to Sunday.

Give me a call on 07768301836

Pete