Cup thread - Subway 500 at Martinsville

Knowlesy · 21 Oct 2007, 18:23 (Ref:2046563)

Thank god this race immediately follows the F1, otherwise I think I'd have thrown myself out of the upstairs window by now. Although a Jimmie Johnson win would force me into this route!

Jeff Gordon starts on the pole. Doesn't look like he wants to let the Cup go this season.

**FIRE** · 21 Oct 2007, 18:24 (Ref:2046570)

Online video stream available?

Knowlesy · 21 Oct 2007, 18:24 (Ref:2046571)

Live timing link: http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/cup/foxTrax

Knowlesy · 21 Oct 2007, 18:25 (Ref:2046573)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Online video stream available?

God knows, is it not on TVU?

NASN are showing it this week mind? At least they are over here.

**FIRE** · 21 Oct 2007, 18:25 (Ref:2046576)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Live timing link: http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/cup/foxTrax

Thanks. The new live timing on nascar.com sucks.

Knowlesy · 21 Oct 2007, 18:38 (Ref:2046620)

Don't thank me, thank VilleneuveTracy.

You can even follow three of your favourite drivers.

VilleneuveTracy · 21 Oct 2007, 18:43 (Ref:2046629)

JPM, and 11 others, stay out. JPM is now up to 3rd! That was a good call. They had pitted about 20 laps earlier. Track position is vital at Martinsville.

It is hard to believe that JPM has only led one race this season, although, of course, he won that race. Can he get out front today?

Knowlesy · 21 Oct 2007, 18:46 (Ref:2046634)

Blimey, didn't know the race was underway, thought I was watching live until I opened timing.

*closes live timing*

**Craig** · 21 Oct 2007, 18:50 (Ref:2046648)

Bugger! Was thinking it was live too and was looking forward to spending a couple of hours here chatting about it! Fantastic to have it back live (or as good as) though

Knowlesy · 21 Oct 2007, 18:56 (Ref:2046659)

A Montoya top five would cheer me immensely, however it will inevitably go tits up.

VilleneuveTracy · 21 Oct 2007, 18:57 (Ref:2046663)

JPM ran well here in the spring. I think he has a solid chance at a top 10 (he has been the fastest car on the track over the last few laps, although that is aided by the 24 and 48 being mired in traffic). Be optimistic. JPM is due some good luck and good finishes.

VilleneuveTracy · 21 Oct 2007, 19:04 (Ref:2046673)

Jpm First Off Of Pit Road!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Edit: four cars either stayed out or took 2 so JPM did not get the lead.

VilleneuveTracy · 21 Oct 2007, 19:10 (Ref:2046688)

JPm's car is much better now. He is consistently faster than the top 3 right now and has run the fastest lap during 3 of the last 4 circuits...

Edit: JPM records another fastest lap and moves up to 3rd.

VilleneuveTracy · 21 Oct 2007, 19:27 (Ref:2046718)

JPM and Jr, my two favorites, 1-2!!! They stayed out, along with 7 or 8 other drivers. Burton busted for a pit road violation. He had a good car.

VilleneuveTracy · 21 Oct 2007, 19:31 (Ref:2046725)

Damn, Junior hit him because he got into the corner too hot, but great save by JPM. He remains in 4th and did lead 9 laps.

**FIRE** · 21 Oct 2007, 19:39 (Ref:2046738)

JPM pitting?

VilleneuveTracy · 21 Oct 2007, 20:22 (Ref:2046813)

I don't know. I missed the last 40-50 laps while running errands. When I came back he was in 8th and now he is up to 7th.

Matt · 21 Oct 2007, 21:41 (Ref:2046948)

The rear panels seem to come off really easily with the CoT's...

muggle not · 21 Oct 2007, 21:57 (Ref:2046995)

Way too many cautions for the race to be interesting, especially at the end.

Matt · 21 Oct 2007, 22:09 (Ref:2047027)

Montoya finishes 8th!

VilleneuveTracy · 21 Oct 2007, 22:10 (Ref:2047031)

I agree. I know I am in a minority but I think NASCAR needs to reduce the field to 30 cars. A large percentage of cautions are caused by field fillers...

It is a shame engine woes robbed Junior of another top 5 but I was very happy with JPM's run. He led a few laps, ran in the top 10 all day and came home 8th. He finished 5th at Atlanta in the spring and was running 3rd late in the race before scraping the wall. He has a very good chance at collecting win #2 next week, especially considering the fact that he almost always runs better the second time he goes to a track.

Matt · 21 Oct 2007, 22:16 (Ref:2047049)

...And send 21 cars home instead of 8? I don't think sooooo.

VilleneuveTracy · 21 Oct 2007, 22:25 (Ref:2047072)

If that happened the number of full-time rides would decline as sponsors would not back 45th place teams that very rarely make races (which would be very, very rare for such a team if there were only 30 car fields). There would be a natural correction to having less cars. It would make the racing better. The field fillers contribute nothing to the show other than causing cautions.

Knowlesy · 21 Oct 2007, 22:59 (Ref:2047156)

Keep the 43 cars. In fact, let them all in!

I am happy with that result, Montoya 8th and a late spin for Ragan. That helps the Raybestos standings.

Shame about the winner.

muggle not · 21 Oct 2007, 23:22 (Ref:2047186)

Truex must have been in most of the record number of wrecks. He was a one man wrecking machine today. I'll bet Tony is thinking that he has had enough of Carl Edwards running into the back of him. A shame that we couldn't see more actual racing the last 30 some laps.

I think that 43 cars is fine for most of the tracks. Martinsville just happens to be the shortest track on the circuit and 43 cars fills the track but at least we have variety in racing. However, I hope they keep Martinsville and it doesn't go the way of North Wilkesboro or Rockingham.

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