[BTCC] BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours!

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Chilton could easily afford to if he was that way inclined - but he doesn't go racing to spend his family's money.

Are you serious? That’s what the Gallagher ‘sponsorship’ is.

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by peebee2

Are you serious? That’s what the Gallagher ‘sponsorship’ is.

Could a step up to full title sponsor for 2 Motorbase cars be on the cards for Gallagher? 🤔 There was obviously a fair chunk put in by them this year to be in the title with SW

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by peebee2

Are you serious? That’s what the Gallagher ‘sponsorship’ is.

Gallagher is not the Chilton family money.
Grahame left the firm in 2018. He may have brokered the deal, but it's someone else's money he's spending - a much smarter way to back his son's career.

[Matt K]

When it comes to Sutton, you're right, it seems problematic as you don't associate him with big sponsors. I doubt I can name his 'personal' backers. Therefore, it's going to be difficult for him to find a decent seat, let alone likes of WSR, which I would also like to see. Staying at BMR would be almost disastrous as I see no prospect of them progressing. In fact, since 2017 it's been downhill for them. I feel Infiniti is likely but I doubt it'd be good for him.

When it comes to Chilton, I also thought of Gallagher stepping up to become a title sponsor of Motorbase. I wouldn't rule it out.

[S griffin]

Sutton has got so much talent, I’m sure there would be someone somewhere willing to run him, even if it is not in the BTCC

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by Matt K

When it comes to Sutton, you're right, it seems problematic as you don't associate him with big sponsors. I doubt I can name his 'personal' backers. Therefore, it's going to be difficult for him to find a decent seat, let alone likes of WSR, which I would also like to see.

Looking at his helmet he's actually got quite a few. I'm sure being a championship winner will attract a few as well. Though you're probably right, not sure he'd be in WSR's range, unless they funded a 3rd 'Team BMW' entry.

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Looking at his helmet he's actually got quite a few. I'm sure being a championship winner will attract a few as well. Though you're probably right, not sure he'd be in WSR's range, unless they funded a 3rd 'Team BMW' entry.

Lol, would they need to fund a 1st and a 2nd such entry first?

[Spanner monkey]

Bob Moffat will buy BMR and rename it BMR (Bob Moffat Racing)
And run Aiden and Ash Sutton

Rob Austin will be in a 2nd Corolla. (Robs wife is related to Christian Dick)

Jordan will be on the grid but not with WSR.

Motorbase will have new cars.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Spanner monkey

Bob Moffat will buy BMR and rename it BMR (Bob Moffat Racing)
And run Aiden and Ash Sutton

Rob Austin will be in a 2nd Corolla. (Robs wife is related to Christian Dick)

Jordan will be on the grid but not with WSR.

Motorbase will have new cars.

I can see at least two of those, and likely three coming true.

[touringlegend]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Boardley was disappointing, and although Crees has been a great personality I still don't think he's quite on the BTCC level, but I would guess he'll stay on for next year.

During Silverstone BTCC Live on FB Crees was asked if he was back with hard next year, he said he had offers from some other teams and it would be dependant on sponsorship being found.

[Alfisti]

All down to money as are most things. Tony offers the cheapest way into BTCC by far, others may have newer cars or more staff per car or more experienced engineers etc etc but at a greater cost.

The #HARD driver line up was completed very early in post season last year, those wanting/ thinking about a ride need their skates on. I expect Goff will be off, but cash or lack of it is key.

[S700UBO]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

The #HARD driver line up was completed very early in post season last year, those wanting/ thinking about a ride need their skates on. I expect Goff will be off, but cash or lack of it is key.

Were HARD not in place before the end of the year? whats Aron Taylor-Smith and Brett Smith up to now a days?

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Looking at his helmet he's actually got quite a few. I'm sure being a championship winner will attract a few as well. Though you're probably right, not sure he'd be in WSR's range, unless they funded a 3rd 'Team BMW' entry.

3rd? I doubt Oliphant is there based on talent alone....if he is then Sutton has to be a better bet

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by S700UBO

Were HARD not in place before the end of the year? whats Aron Taylor-Smith and Brett Smith up to now a days?

ATS has a had a pretty underwhelming year driving a Mustang GT4 in BGT alongside Sam Smelt. I think Brett was racing in the VW Cup?

[Overboost]

Originally Posted by S700UBO

Were HARD not in place before the end of the year? whats Aron Taylor-Smith and Brett Smith up to now a days?

They were, Tony will take a deposit off the first 4 with the cash pretty much (except Bushell last year but that's a whole different story).

Bobby had other options but the HARD deal left enough money to pay him & his Dad a bit.

Oliphant definitely brings a big cheque to WSR but he's no slouch behind the wheel.

[Sodemo]

I saw the new 1-series today. I am glad WSR chose to go with the 3-series... (wretchgif.gif).

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

All down to money as are most things. Tony offers the cheapest way into BTCC by far, others may have newer cars or more staff per car or more experienced engineers etc etc but at a greater cost.

Bearing that in mind I think they do a pretty decent job. They seem to get a lot of stick, is it really justified?

[S700UBO]

Originally Posted by Pickles

Bearing that in mind I think they do a pretty decent job. They seem to get a lot of stick, is it really justified?

i think that comes from when they tried to run 4 new cars straight off the bat, BMR came in and did a decent job with them scoring points and podiums.

I personally dont have an issue with them

[Robshillito1990]

I cant see Subaru being back next year that car is as quick as the rules are ever going to let it be and Subaru dont have a model in the uk that they can realistically replace it with. Also cant see Sutton staying at BMR just so he has a guaranteed seat. You can see he is becoming frustrated with how slow the car is over the last few meetings

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by Robshillito1990

Also cant see Sutton staying at BMR just so he has a guaranteed seat. You can see he is becoming frustrated with how slow the car is over the last few meetings

Suttons contract with Warren ends this year so you'd imagine he'll be looking to move elsewhere, rumours are he's off to Australia to do V8 Supercars.

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by Robshillito1990

Subaru dont have a model in the uk that they can realistically replace it with.

https://www.subaru.co.uk/impreza

[Robshillito1990]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

https://www.subaru.co.uk/impreza

Why would they use the Impreza? Will use the same engine, same engine mounting points etc as the Levorg so really isn't worth it

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Robshillito1990

Why would they use the Impreza? Will use the same engine, same engine mounting points etc as the Levorg so really isn't worth it

The engine mounting points are defined by the NGTC subframes, the wheelbases are different between the models so the engine location (in relation to ROPS reference points) will naturally differ as part of NGTC build requirements.

They could also, with either Impreza or Levorg, put the TOCA engine in.

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

The engine mounting points are defined by the NGTC subframes, the wheelbases are different between the models so the engine location (in relation to ROPS reference points) will naturally differ as part of NGTC build requirements.

They could also, with either Impreza or Levorg, put the TOCA engine in.

Presumably ditching the boxer engine would also affect the CoG? Be interesting if another team did take the Levorg on and run them with the TOCA engines...

[Sodemo]

I think all of the Subaru's speed came from the benefits of that unique engine layout. I think if you just stuck the regular Swindon unit in there the car would be a complete dog relative to other RWD options.