IMSA 2023 IMSA Season - Page 6

Coach Ep · 4 Oct 2022, 14:47 (Ref:4128664)

2 Turner BMWs expected: https://sportscar365.com/imsa/impc/t...nd-bmw-m4-gt3/

Probably both in GTD but hoping one of them will compete in Pro (Auberlen-Edwards would be a worthy pairing).

Coach Ep · 4 Oct 2022, 15:09 (Ref:4128667)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

After changes to the LMP2 class in the WEC, TDS is looking to run a two car program in IMSA in 2023:

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/...p2-effort.html

Quote:

With the FIA WEC removing the LMP2 Pro-Am class from their 2023 plans and a number of well-established drivers having to look again at racing options, several are known to be looking carefully at the IMSA package, DSC sources confirming that two current LMP2 Bronze-ranked drivers are close to finalising programmes with TDS in North America, neither are 2022 full-season customer drivers for the team.

DSC is also aware of another European team who are closing in on a potential full-season IMSA LMP2 programme for 2023 with at least one Oreca 07 and yet another with plans for selected races.

So we could see a handful of P2 entries be added to the class, bringing the total into the double digits.

**joeb** · 4 Oct 2022, 19:53 (Ref:4128683)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

So we could see a handful of P2 entries be added to the class, bringing the total into the double digits.

Makes me wonder, does IMSA have a cap on P2 entries? In the past they have stated 10 is the max for P3, but I think we may have seen 11 entries once this past season.

Coach Ep · 4 Oct 2022, 23:07 (Ref:4128693)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

Makes me wonder, does IMSA have a cap on P2 entries? In the past they have stated 10 is the max for P3, but I think we may have seen 11 entries once this past season.

There were originally 11 P3 entries on the Petit entry list but that number went down to 8 eventually. Just by running its natural course, no intervention from IMSA needed.

This year's Rolex 24H had 10 P2s entries and 62? in total.

An entry cap might apply to full season entries only, I have no idea.
Right now, the Rolex especially might get oversubscribed so if P2 entry were to go well into double digits (i.e. more than 10) it'll probably eat into P3's quota assuming the other class entry numbers stay the same/similar.

I have to look up the maximum number of cars on track allowed (it's in the supps).

Edit: 61 entries in total for 2022's Rolex 24 - which was the maximum capacity according to https://www.imsa.com/wp-content/uplo...Entry-List.pdf (probably not the latest version but nevertheless). If anything, the number might get lowered as the new prototype cars are rumored to reach higher top speeds than the outgoing DPi's, flirting with the famous 200 mph barrier at the speedway.

If there's a substantial increase in P2 entries, IMSA will have to look at the number of P3 entries and they might be forced to cut them from the big show all together.

Coach Ep · 4 Oct 2022, 23:33 (Ref:4128696)

Sebring's max. this year was 60.

Simmi · 5 Oct 2022, 11:39 (Ref:4128744)

ELMS announced today their Portimao round no longer clashes with Petit. So that's good for any Euro-based P2 crews wanting to run both championships. Providing they've got enough chassis. And obviously a LOT of drivers. Must have been enough crossover and lobbying to get the date moved.

https://www.europeanlemansseries.com...6426693b4f39dd

broadrun96 · 5 Oct 2022, 12:07 (Ref:4128748)

I would guess many of the drivers/teams with conflicts brought up 10 hour with more track time and likely P2s expanding to IMSA so they would already be in the US. Everyone saw which course would be dropped in that case

Coach Ep · 5 Oct 2022, 13:24 (Ref:4128758)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

ELMS announced today their Portimao round no longer clashes with Petit. So that's good for any Euro-based P2 crews wanting to run both championships. Providing they've got enough chassis. And obviously a LOT of drivers. Must have been enough crossover and lobbying to get the date moved.

https://www.europeanlemansseries.com...6426693b4f39dd

Sensible move. Now SRO has to move up their final event @ Zandvoort one week and we're all set at the end of the season.

NaBUru38 · 6 Oct 2022, 14:54 (Ref:4128907)

We haven't discussed much about the lack of GTD Pro entries.

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/more...s-can-survive/

Coach Ep · 6 Oct 2022, 15:13 (Ref:4128908)

Because there really isn't a lack. I expect 5-8 GTD Pro entries for the season. Daytona and Sebring might see double digits.

Simmi · 6 Oct 2022, 15:51 (Ref:4128912)

I could see us gaining an extra Vette and losing the BMW perhaps. Essentially breaking even. The class can look decent in NAEC like Coach Ep says. Full season a bit meh. I do think it's a bit too light.

I think I'd feel a bit more invested if they pulled both classes into one but Corvette don't want that. Doesn't seem like anyone else cares too much.

broadrun96 · 6 Oct 2022, 19:40 (Ref:4128924)

Love how this is considered paltry but GT America is fine with even worse numbers and TERRIBLE driving standards. It takes 2 cars for a race and 5 decent cars are better than 15 crap entries

Coach Ep · 6 Oct 2022, 21:19 (Ref:4128930)

To me SRO is totally irrelevant in this discussion (and in almost any IMSA discussion). If you wanna discuss driving standards, that's fine (although I don't have a clue about those as I've only seen one GT America race with my own eyes in St. Pete at the beginning of the season) but there are other sections in this forum for that.

Coach Ep · 6 Oct 2022, 21:37 (Ref:4128933)

Derani is already shooting for the stars!

Quote:

From the AXR side, team veteran Pipo Derani, who is believed to have launched the car into the air exiting Turn 12 on Wednesday and continued,

from https://racer.com/2022/10/06/cadilla...h-gtp-testing/

**joeb** · 7 Oct 2022, 12:09 (Ref:4129001)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

We haven't discussed much about the lack of GTD Pro entries.

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/more...s-can-survive/

most surprising thing to me from that article is that Risi sold his Ferrari dealership?

**joeb** · 7 Oct 2022, 12:11 (Ref:4129002)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Derani is already shooting for the stars!

from https://racer.com/2022/10/06/cadilla...h-gtp-testing/

how does happen with single car running, and how did he not hit the wall???

Coach Ep · 7 Oct 2022, 12:23 (Ref:4129006)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

most surprising thing to me from that article is that Risi sold his Ferrari dealership?

Beginning of the year, to a guy named Larry van Tuyl, I didn't know either (but I'm not into business news at all), https://samacharcentral.com/larry-va...ship-business/

Here's more about the history of Risi's 'empire': https://www.houstoniamag.com/news-an...ere-in-houston

Risi still owns the race team and now that he has sold the dealership, might have more time to devote to the race team. It might also mean he's actively looking at retirement and I feel that's the more likely direction.

broadrun96 · 8 Oct 2022, 19:19 (Ref:4129278)

Feels like he is looking to go out with a bang and GTP for a season would be that. Just needs someone to buy and fund the car. And IMSA behave and balance well

broadrun96 · 11 Oct 2022, 12:12 (Ref:4129881)

Well Lamborghini expects a high take rate on the Evo2 package, 5 cars anticipated for Daytona and possibly a Pro car for the enduros.

Porsche expects to have 6 of the new GT3Rs as well. But the only place you can them that early is IMSA, IGTC has blocked them from running Bathurst and Kyalami races because they won't have official BOPs.

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/l...s-for-daytona/

Coach Ep · 11 Oct 2022, 13:05 (Ref:4129891)

Ferrari has also thrown some ambitious numbers around:

Quote:

“It’s difficult to be sure but I hope five or six cars [at Daytona],” Coletta said. “If we have more, I would be very happy.
...
“Next year I hope to have 4-5 [full season] cars in IMSA. Probably one of Risi and three in [GTD]. I hope Risi will be full season but we need to ask to Risi.”

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/f...monstrate-car/

So 5 Lambos, 5/6 Porsches, 5 Ferraris - the GTD (Pro) spots are filling fast!

Good for IMSA - and us!

seanyb505 · 11 Oct 2022, 13:57 (Ref:4129898)

I read the Ferrari number as 2 full season, plus maybe 1 gtd and risi for enduros. Just a hunch with no basis in reality lol

broadrun96 · 12 Oct 2022, 01:45 (Ref:4129975)

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanyb505

I read the Ferrari number as 2 full season, plus maybe 1 gtd and risi for enduros. Just a hunch with no basis in reality lol

It was Risi contesting the enduros this year meaning 22 since the article was from August, they state Risi is looking at full season but they have looked for the last decade so...

I would guess AF Corse with a likely Am car, possibly Pro with money from Ferrari for drivers getting track time IF they think IMSA will allow their Hypercar.

Simmi · 12 Oct 2022, 11:55 (Ref:4130017)

This is the thing I'm not getting about the Risi Hypercar stuff. They've not been able to or had the desire to put together a full season GT programme for so long. Yet they could maybe do a full season hypercar?

Would love to be proven wrong but I just don't see it.

broadrun96 · 12 Oct 2022, 12:14 (Ref:4130020)

View it this way, they always have interest in running a car, little interest in paying for the car. When Ferrari or others kick in money and drivers, they race, when there's none they don't.

I've always been under the assumption if someone brings Risi a hypercar they may run it but he's not funding/buying it himself. And all sportscar media seems to love a Risi is coming story, Hindy completely ignored what Guiseppe said of we would love a hypercar program and it became Risi is running one in seconds during the interview

Enduranceracer · 13 Oct 2022, 01:42 (Ref:4130078)

JDC Miller Motorspot website updated wih the Porsche 963 and possible livery

https://www.jdcmotorsport.com/
https://www.jdcmotorsport.com/driversJDC.htm
https://www.jdcmotorsport.com/seriesJDC.htm

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