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Old 4 Apr 2004, 14:25 (Ref:929746)   #1
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So what happened to DC.........

He's in a points position,comes in,the team do not expect him,do nothing to the car and he goes out and parks up at the end of the pitlane.

So is it mis-communication,he gets called in by mistake,therefore he's out of the points,annoyed with the team,therefore parks up.

He thinks he has a prob,the team don't but he dosen't want to risk it,therefore parks up.

No doubt we will get some PR speak from McLaren.

Anyone any idea what really MAY have happened.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 14:30 (Ref:929754)   #2
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they did do something to the car, they tried to solve a problem by refilling the car with compressed air(probably something to do with the valves), clearly it did'nt work.

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Old 4 Apr 2004, 14:31 (Ref:929756)   #3
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Coulthard wouldn't "park the car" because he was "annoyed with the team", you fool.

He had a mechanical problem, came in, went out again and then the problem became terminal.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 14:32 (Ref:929758)   #4
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I'm guessing he had a tech. problem, radioed in to get the team to have a look, came in, team couldn't see what the fuss was about and sent him out, DC heads out again and car dies at the end of the pitlane.

It didn't sound sick when he came in though and it appears the team didn't look for much before sending him out.

All a bit strange IMO. McLaren have looked completely at sea all weekend, very unprofessional. I for one wanted an RD interview at the end of the race.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 14:33 (Ref:929761)   #5
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they did do something to the car, they tried to solve a problem by refilling the car with compressed air(probably something to do with the valves), clearly it did'nt work.
We didn't get to hear about this. I thought they were just looking at the car. S'what our commentary had anyway.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 14:36 (Ref:929769)   #6
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As i'm new to the board Kicking-back i'll thank you for your welcome
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 14:48 (Ref:929777)   #7
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Fantasy GP610,

On behalf of myself, welcome to this forum and for showing restraint after being called a fool, on what seemed to me, like a genuine enquiry.

Guess we'll have to wait for the PR speak - should be interesting!!

Like Rubinho, I'd like to hear what 'The Ronster' has to say.
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they did do something to the car, they tried to solve a problem by refilling the car with compressed air(probably something to do with the valves), clearly it did'nt work.
I was under the impression that the team didn't touch the car, and from watching onboard shots before (from previous seasons) the top up for the compressed air has usually been on the right hand side of the cockpit. (not saying thats always the case, or that it hasn't been changed over of course ) Maybe just a dodgy camera angle, and didn't show any work on the car.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 15:05 (Ref:929797)   #9
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Thanks for that Pitstop,i have looked at various F1 forum's and found that many are sometimes abusive and frankly silly.

I read this forum for a few months before registering,as it seemed to me to be the most informative and sensible one out there.

My question was a genuine enquiry as i am not an expert at F1,and am learning all the time.

I had not seen on TV (ITV) anything to do with compressed air/valves etc--that's why i was asking.

Enough said........off topic but thanks again.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 15:28 (Ref:929809)   #10
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Fantasy GPD610 - welcome! On the American feed Steve Matchett (former Benetton mechanic) speculated that it was hydraulics - not compressed air. It may have been a fatal hydraulic failure of some sort.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 16:45 (Ref:929891)   #14
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The way McLaren handled that situation shows a team in massive dissaray & if i was Coulthard i'd gladly hand the car to JPM next year.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 16:49 (Ref:929896)   #15
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If I remember correctly, this is the second time this season Coulthard's car breaks up while he's in the point.

And it also happened to Raikkonen once this season!
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 17:03 (Ref:929911)   #17
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Well according to DC he........

"lost air in the pneumatic system of the engine.I came into the pits to see if we could do something to rectify the situation but it proved impossible and that was the end of that."

Two questions....maybe foolish

If he had a problem and radioed it in (which you would assume he would do) why was the pit crew not ready for him :confused:

If the problem was terminal why pull out of the pit box into a potentially dangerous position in the pit-lane and then park up at the end of it.:confused:

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Old 4 Apr 2004, 17:25 (Ref:929932)   #18
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They were the two things that had me perplexed about the incident, i think that that incident shows how deep the problems run at McLaren.
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If I remember correctly, this is the second time this season Coulthard's car breaks up while he's in the point.

And it also happened to Raikkonen once this season!
No, I did not remember correctly.

Previous one was Ralf, not David.

So each of the four drivers (Montoya, Ralf, Raikkonen and Coulthard) has lost points because of car failure during the race exactly once this season.
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