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I have to acknowledge what you've said is just as true too, but Fujitsu Series, like many immediate rungs below the top level in motorsport world wide, the guys who really are going to make it, make themselves obvious before they get to the Fujitsu Series. |
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11 Apr 2009, 12:28 (Ref:2438556) | #27 | ||
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Either way, It's not going to happen this year or next in all probability - maybe something to think about for the future , if V8 Supercars can weather the interim storm though and keep the younger talent flowing !!! |
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I take a great picture!
But seriously... is the DVS Championship all that worth winning?.. Many want to win it, but is it all what it is cracked up to be?... You dont seem to get the opportunities one used to get with winning the series... |
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I see it as a problem for the reputation of the series. It's quite obvious that it's not getting the exposure it should be getting for the young drivers. If anyone really saw the series as a breeding ground for the next big thing the champion "should" be getting sponsors more easily, therefore would be able to get the financial backing to take the step up into the main series.
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On its own the Development series win means nothing, but with a previous successful racing history in competitive series such as FF, Posche, F3 ect. it is neccessary for the main series to see these drives get relevant experience in type of cars they run.
As for sponsorship , I think that is all a bit of a myth these days and rich family is pre-requisit for racing until you break into " the big Time" or not. |
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with the Dev series, its kinda out of sight for all but the most loyal fans. its not something that id readily sit down and watch ont he weekend unless i had nothing else to do. yes it has good racing, but its missing something. maybee its the big name teams or drivers who knows.
what id like to see happen is something in the light of the old FF Driver to Europe series. have the Black wiggle set up the winner of the dev series with half a mil, or whatever it costs these days for a 1 year stint with a team in the main series and have it has a continual prize. if the guys are good enough then hopefully they can progress beyond there. |
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Winning the DVS doesnt give one the opportunities it used to give... It used to give a sure fire way to get into VCS, now it's lucky to be recognised on the resume... Drivers say they want to win the DVS but how much does it really count towards other bigger things?.. VCS is probably as high as you can get in Australia, but do you really need to be a champion to get in or just have a fat wallet, a rich daddy, or a rich sponsor that is willing to pay your bills... hmm mind boggles.... |
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As for Longhurst, he came in when Team Iymadik would have lost a heap of sponsorship dollars as a result of violating one of the major clauses in most sponsorship contracts: DON'T CHEAT! It's strongly rumoured that Wills got shafted beacause he had the seat for his money, and when Longhurst came along and said "I'll buy in if I can drive" he was no longer necessary. If he was such a talent why haven't we seen him make a comeback when guys like Bargs can find a full time drive and guys like Radisich seems to be in higher demand for the enduros? Quote:
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I don't have the fat wallet, the rich dad or the rich sponsor so hopefully I can land the rich wife.
I figure if I make it as far as the Fujitsu series, even driving in one round that will be quite the accomplishment considering I started with nothing. |
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Originally Posted by Chatters "Simon Wills made a good run at it, and at one stage Team Dynamik were showing signs of promise until Tony Longhurst stepped in.] I think that any team would make inroads if it was doing extra testing miles at Woomera! As for Longhurst, he came in when Team Iymadik would have lost a heap of sponsorship dollars as a result of violating one of the major clauses in most sponsorship contracts: DON'T CHEAT! It's strongly rumoured that Wills got shafted beacause he had the seat for his money, and when Longhurst came along and said "I'll buy in if I can drive" he was no longer necessary. If he was such a talent why haven't we seen him make a comeback when guys like Bargs can find a full time drive and guys like Radisich seems to be in higher demand for the enduros " Simons Wills "rich" Dad owned and backed Team Dynamics until they got done for Cheating! |
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The team had no large Sponsors prior to Woomera actually, and then after all the publicity of it gained quite a bit of revenue from sponsors from then on. With the fine of $100k, it actually garnered much more than that. I suppose looking at it, paying someone $100k to find you a large sponsor or two and they succeed, it seems a no brainer! Will Davison actually was immediately shafted from the Longhurst deal from my point of view, as Tony demanded Max had to drive from Clipsal even though the team had a deal with Will. The team took the fall with Will and Tony then went on to do the things behind the teams back that Dynamik eventually took him to court over and won. On the actual topic, a Development series will always be a good thing to have on a drivers resume. If the Teams in the series are crying out for cash to survive and keep their staff employed, then the Development Series winners will always suffer. If the main series was run with teams on a level playing field at a cost they all can easily attract the dollars to perform, then the Champions will get a fair crack. This will not happen as it is with such lop sided team budgets these days... |
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I haven't said what was done was right. The team was penalised for one team members efforts and their choices, and so be it.
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It is a shame (if what you say is correct) that one team member had so much power in the team - I personally believe things would be very different for Team Dynamik if that "big" signing never happened. I still cant believe he is in a job in V8s. It is interesting what you say Simon, that you obviously don't think it was right yet was still involved in it - guilt by association hope you don't know any bikies I don't have anything against you personally but the way the team you were involved in dealt with a number of good people was pretty disgraceful. |
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I knew nothing about any of it till the day before when I was asked to have a drive of the car as they did not want an inexperienced driver to risk an engine. I tried to get out of it as I had a personal sponsor event lined up at Mallala at the same time. There were people there I did not know, and I had been told it was to benefit the team financially. The team always pushed hard to look after its staff, and if your opinion is different to that, well it is the opposite to mine. I have seen a lot worse in my time...
If you have a real issue which you do seem to have, pm me and we can go through it there. This topic does not support this subject... |
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Simon your father was in charge of the team and had the power to over-ride any "Oscary" doddgy decision. It was extremely stupid to think that taking such a risk was worthwhile and the efforts to disguise the endevour even more incriminating. Its a pity for your sake that it has had such major affect on your carreer. However your father should have known better, it was his prior large investment in your career that He risked! This is all off topic and old news which i am sure should be put behind.
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You both have taken your opinions too far this time, and whist I am a avid supporter of this particular driver these comments seriously take the bait. It's not fit for public discussion where people get their budgets, and it is definately not fit for public discussion on your chosen topic. Who cares if it is one round of the DVS?.. it's one more than both of you's will ever do and probably will ever do, you two have both disgusted me beyond apologies. And for those of you who gave Willsy a hard time, give him a break too, they admitted wrong doing and I think Simon would like to put it behind him and move on.. |
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In regards to my comments I was refering to ME, not any other driver, so I don't know who you are talking about! So if I land a rich wife what do you care? For me considering the long journey I've had if I land on the grid for one Fujitsu race, I'll be content but not satisfied at least I made it that far. |
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mountainstar, maybe your display pic there provides a hint as to a more realistic way of obtaining the $50K or so needed for a Fujitsu round...
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He did make a comeback driving the BOC Ford. It is fair to say that BJR BFs never really had the pace regardless of the driver.
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