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Old 21 Aug 2009, 17:53 (Ref:2525677)   #1
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ACO Publish 2010 Le Mans Regulations

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Le Mans organiser the ACO has released the technical regulations for the 2010 Le Mans 24 Hours and Le Mans Series.
The governing body's efforts to equalise the performance of the diesel and petrol-powered LMP1 class continues with the diesels pegged further back and the petrol cars granted a slight power increase.
The rules regarding the bodywork of prototypes have also been tweaked, although the final regulations on front bodywork - which was the area of dispute between Audi and Peugeot at this year's Le Mans - is still to be finalised.
Vincent Beaumesnil, ACO sports manager, said: "Our role is to define a fair set of regulations to give each configuration the opportunity to race. In an unfavorable economic context, the idea was to modify the cars as little as possible. All entrants want to be able to use their current cars in 2010, and possibly in 2011 and beyond.
"It was necessary to make a few clarifications, and to modify certain points in the regulations, to prevent some entrants from investing in solutions that we consider too extreme, and which go against the aims we have set ourselves - to keep laptimes above 3m30s at Le Mans."
The changes to the rules follow a meeting with between the ACO and the manufacturers at Le Mans in June to analyse data from this year's race.
"Regulations must evolve from one year to the next to adapt to the context," added Beaumesnil. "When you publish them, entrants interpret them, work on them, find solutions and performance increases just at the moment when we have to prevent performance escalation to guarantee a level playing field and safety."
A summary of the ACO's regulation changes
1- LMP1 and LMP2 bodywork:
At the rear:
Closing of the part behind the rear wheels. The use of grills or fairings to cover the rear wheel above the axis of the axle will no longer be allowed. The bodywork must be closed in this area and must carry the rear lights, rear stop lights and indicators.
On the sides:
Bodywork located at the rear of the axis of the rear wheels and above the reference plate must form a smooth, continuous, unbroken surface of convex form only, without cuts. It must not be set back more than 100mm in relation to the width of the bodywork at the axis of the rear axle (measured horizontally).
At the front:
Confirmation within 15 days of the aerodynamic definition of the front of the cars. It is currently under study and consultation with the manufacturers taking into account the technical feasibility and cost issues.
2- LMP1 engines
Diesel restrictor reduced from 37.9mm to 37.5mm
Restrictor advantage for closed cars reduced from 0.4mm to 0.3mm
Supercharger pressure reduced from 2750 to 2590 mbar
Petrol restrictor increased from 32.5mm to 33.3mm
GT1 engine (Aston Martin) restrictor increased from 32.7mm to 33.3mm
Use of engines in the Le Mans Series:
At present the regulations oblige entrants to use the same engine for two consecutive In 2010, three sealed engines can be used freely during the season.
Weight of the cars:
The minimum weight of the LMP1 diesel cars is increased to 930kg (30kg of ballast cancelled). The minimum weight of the other categories remains unchanged.
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General slowing down of the cars, and simpler boydwork around the rear.
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Old 21 Aug 2009, 17:54 (Ref:2525679)   #2
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Full tech regs here:

http://www.lemans-series.com/ml/imag...lemans2010.pdf

My intial thought is that this is going to mean a complete re-design of the R15 rear end, right?
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Full tech regs here:

http://www.lemans-series.com/ml/imag...lemans2010.pdf

My intial thought is that this is going to mean a complete re-design of the R15 rear end, right?
I would think so, including the tail lights.
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I would think so, including the tail lights.
But, given that the airflow is directed through the car, it will require a whole new bodywork design given that there is nowhere for the airflow to exit legally?
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Disappointed about the tail light ruling - the R15 LED approach looked good, was an elegant solution to them not getting knocked out in a minor rear end shunt, and were a link to Audi brand values with the LEDs.

I'm not going to kick up a fuss until there's been a degree of thinking about it, but there's always a bit of a sigh when something which seemed sensibly innovative gets banned.
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The bias towards diesel cars has not been addressed. Just makes the regs a joke.
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But, given that the airflow is directed through the car, it will require a whole new bodywork design given that there is nowhere for the airflow to exit legally?
Can exit below wheel center line as I understand. The new reg simply states you must now cover all openings above wheel center line. But it's still free below.
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The bias towards diesel cars has not been addressed. Just makes the regs a joke.

That statement is patently untrue! Wether or not it is enough is yet to be determined.





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Can exit below wheel center line as I understand. The new reg simply states you must now cover all openings above wheel center line. But it's still free below.
Well, I don't know. This is very interesting as it does open up what they can do, doesn't it? I don't understand what they are trying to achieve, other than to reduce downsforce. I'm thinking that teams will interpret this many different ways.

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Can exit below wheel center line as I understand. The new reg simply states you must now cover all openings above wheel center line. But it's still free below.
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Well, I don't know. This is very interesting as it does open up what they can do, doesn't it? I don't understand what they are trying to achieve, other than to reduce downsforce. I'm thinking that teams will interpret this many different ways.

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No, actually it reduces what they can do. It makes them close off all the screened vents above the wheel center line.



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No, actually it reduces what they can do. It makes them close off all the screened vents above the wheel center line.



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Oops. My apologies-bad choice of syntax. By opening up stuff, I meant their possiblities, not parts of the body. It will definitely close up the rear of the car; but to what extent and what will it do to the car's aero? The car will look alot different as well. What about the 908?
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The rule about the rear wheel centerline vents is kinda dumb, since almost every car is in violation of it if they were to be raced next year. It's not just the R15-the Acura ARX-02 is in violation, the Peugeot 908 is in violation, the various Lola and Oreca/Courage cars are, and even the Audi R8 and Bentley Speed 8(including those examples to show that this isn't a new issue at all!) are!. Everyone will have to modify the rear of their cars for next year if the ACO follows through with it-it's just a matter of degree.

And the LMP1 diesel rules of 930kgs minimum weight-does that change anything, since they had that min weight since the Spa LMS round?
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The weight isn't the thing; it's the larger restrictor for petrol and GT1 engines and the smaller restrictor for diesels.
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And less boost for the diesels.





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In an unfavorable economic context, the idea was to modify the cars as little as possible. All entrants want to be able to use their current cars in 2010, and possibly in 2011 and beyond.
Running current cars instead of using 2011 rules is the cheaper solution. Good thing that the ACO is seeing this.
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Running current cars instead of using 2011 rules is the cheaper solution. Good thing that the ACO is seeing this.
The 2011 rules are the current cars, albeit with different drivetrains.
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The 2011 rules are the current cars, albeit with different drivetrains.
Which create additional costs but don't bring much to the table.
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Clarifcation(or at least a clearer explanation) of the proposed 2010 ACO rules here:

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...0-regulations/

Seems that Porsche's protest of Ferrari at LM brought about the rear wheel visibility deal for all cars.
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The rule about the rear wheel centerline vents is kinda dumb, since almost every car is in violation of it if they were to be raced next year. It's not just the R15-the Acura ARX-02 is in violation, the Peugeot 908 is in violation, the various Lola and Oreca/Courage cars are, and even the Audi R8 and Bentley Speed 8(including those examples to show that this isn't a new issue at all!) are!. Everyone will have to modify the rear of their cars for next year if the ACO follows through with it-it's just a matter of degree.
Many of the cars you mention will require minimal modification, and all teams knew they probably would have change something in these 2010 regs.

I still think that this affects the R15 far more than anything else. There are just so many gills and grills and the rear of that thing!
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No more than what the 908 or the R10 has-the R15 uses them more for areo than just having them there as on the 908 or the R10, IE using something that previously served no purpose.

Or could it be the ACO/IMSA's reaction to the Felipe Massa incident, since it seems to cover mostly the area immediately behind the rear tires(and seemingly contributes minimally to areodynamics)?
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I am pretty sure that 908 and the R10 have no aero pieces on them that do not serve a purpose.
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Well, the Speed TV release seems to indicate that the ACO's main aim is the area immediately behind the rear wheels/wheel well. At Racecar Engineering's website, there's an article that actually has a fairly well detailed drawing of how the R15's rear aero works as far as the rear vents, which exhaust between the wheelwells, and not out them: http://www.racecar-engineering.com/a...uncovered.html

I think that this may very well be a reaction to Massa's accident on the part of the ACO and IMSA, though with sportscars, such an incident is very unlikely. But then again, Porsche protested Ferrari on simiar gounds at Le Mans and won...
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Well, the Speed TV release seems to indicate that the ACO's main aim is the area immediately behind the rear wheels/wheel well. At Racecar Engineering's website, there's an article that actually has a fairly well detailed drawing of how the R15's rear aero works as far as the rear vents, which exhaust between the wheelwells, and not out them: http://www.racecar-engineering.com/a...uncovered.html

I think that this may very well be a reaction to Massa's accident on the part of the ACO and IMSA, though with sportscars, such an incident is very unlikely. But then again, Porsche protested Ferrari on simiar gounds at Le Mans and won...
It looks to me like the R15 will need more modification than the Pug.
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Who cares about a little bit of body work at the back of some cars, the main question with the new regs is will the petrol cars be back on equal terms with the deisels and will the racing be even better next year. The changes will cause the teams very little trouble and be bearly visible to the fans but if close and exciting racing is achieved by the ACO then attendance, sponsership and grid sizes will give the final verdict.
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Well, the Speed TV release seems to indicate that the ACO's main aim is the area immediately behind the rear wheels/wheel well. At Racecar Engineering's website, there's an article that actually has a fairly well detailed drawing of how the R15's rear aero works as far as the rear vents, which exhaust between the wheelwells, and not out them: http://www.racecar-engineering.com/a...uncovered.html

I think that this may very well be a reaction to Massa's accident on the part of the ACO and IMSA, though with sportscars, such an incident is very unlikely. But then again, Porsche protested Ferrari on simiar gounds at Le Mans and won...
Seems a pretty clear cut case of the ACO wanting to add drag to the cars in order to slow them down, nothing more.
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