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Old 22 May 2020, 18:13 (Ref:3977763)   #426
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If you imagine to "sanitize" the car between two runs is it only for Gt's and Tintops or should we imagine something different for the convertibles?
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Old 22 May 2020, 19:08 (Ref:3977781)   #428
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Health and safety might have something to say. Also need to make sure they follow protocool
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Make sure you keep the plug in for better under tub aero....

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Old 22 May 2020, 23:30 (Ref:3977811)   #431
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I'd shower the driver with praise!

Is this what single-seater drivers are talking about when they say they need a new tub?

He certainly had a clean run up the hill... and he was surely bathing in applause on the way back down.

I could go on...
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I'm as baffled as you Gerard, just trying to get into the head of the powers that be here. But I can't.

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Yes Max we'll always find people with "ideas" when scientists are stil learning about this virus. Talking about rule of the thumb in this case is just showing ignorance.
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Old 23 May 2020, 07:40 (Ref:3977835)   #434
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This is where we need to listen to advice, we are slowly getting further. It's still a while till we get going again, but not too long hopefully
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Its all kicking off here at Delta. Testing Thursday at Donington then Friday at Brands Hatch.No details as yet as to how its all going to work with the distancing.
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Old 26 May 2020, 10:27 (Ref:3978361)   #436
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I'm just trying to get my drivers into slots at kart tracks. They're opening with limited numbers, "first come, first served." Clay ran its first ones at the weekend and they were a great success according to all who went. It's kicking off again, softly softly.
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Maybe this, Iain....https://www.msvtrackdays.com/car/new...cing-measures/
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Thanks Lanky,Seems all straight forward.
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At kart tracks we've all got to wear face coverings so I've bought the guys shields so they can work easily. I'm hoping even this will be a temporary measure, although hand and worktop hygiene is going to remain paramount.

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Motorsport UK has announced that in anticipation of motorsport restarting in the UK from 4th July, it is inviting online permit applications from 1st June 2020.
Motorsport is currently suspended throughout the UK until 30th June 2020. Following ongoing positive dialogue with the Department for Culture, Media and Sport and having set out its strategy and anticipated conditions for restarting motorsport disciplines, the governing body is now moving to its next phase of getting the sport back on track. Further details will be communicated following the next Motorsport UK Board meeting of 3rd June.

Any resumption of motorsport is contingent on event organisers demonstrating that they can plan in accordance with the recently published, “Getting Back on Track” guidelines of Motorsport UK, while respecting government guidance on social distancing.

Motorsport UK is also acutely aware that different devolved territories of the UK may be moving at different paces in easing restrictions; any application for an event permit will be subject to approval based on the prevailing government advice. The move is also contingent on governments continuing with measures to open up society and that further restrictions resultant of any additional waves of COVID-19 are not required.
David Richards, chairman of Motorsport UK, commented, “In March, Motorsport UK moved quickly and in line with government to suspend motorsport, while everyone’s priority was restricting the spread of this terrible disease and protecting the NHS. It is now right that, as government has set out plans to ease restrictions, we move in step and introduce the next stage of our phased restart. Unlike many sports, motorsport in the UK is an industry in itself, employing tens of thousands and contributing billions of pounds to the UK economy."
“We always said that, when the conditions were right, we would take a responsible decision to resume motorsport in order to sustain the sport, jobs and the economy. We have explained our plans to government and are fortunate that motorsport takes place outdoors over large controlled spaces. Our plan is that, subject to government advice and ongoing lifting of restrictions, motorsport will resume from 4th July. We are making this announcement now as event organisers, venues, preparation specialists, the supply chain, volunteer Marshals, Officials and Competitors all need time to put in place their plans.”

There will be a number of caveats of granting event permits, including that event organisers commit that their events will be held behind closed doors, appropriate PPE requirements are met, and that each organiser must appoint a COVID-19 officer to ensure compliance with any relevant guidelines. Furthermore, there will be a limit on the number of permits issued for July to 50% of those in the corresponding month of 2019, in order that there are sufficient volunteer Official and Marshal resources available to support the restart in a safe and responsible manner. No national or British championship events will take place in July to reduce potential national and international travel (excludes FIA championships).

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Interesting to note in the VSCC statement (linked in the 2020 dates thread) that they are of the view that as we have surmised, a likely lack of marshals and an apparent dissatisfaction with the proposed PPE and self-distancing provisions for them means they think several planned events can't be run.
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"No national or British championship events will take place in July
to reduce potential national and international travel (excludes FIA
championships)."

in plain English (or optionally plain German) ??

What does take place ?
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If I read that correctly then most historic racing cant take place as most of it is a "National event"

this rates a good 9,1 on the 0-10 garbled-scale

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Well the only I think of is that no national championships are going ahead in June and July. The BTCC and British GT are back in August and the British GP is due to go ahead in July, although that could be pushed back to August

That’s all I know, so I think they could be referring to that. I don’t know of any historic events that are scheduled for July atm, or any national meeting for that matter
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Yes agreed. I think it means National and British championships which generally excludes Historic club events.
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It is amiguous wording. The Blue Book gives championships a grade, however, this is based on whether the championship has 'British' in the name, and the level of commercial support (e.g. Formula 4 and BRDC F3 have higher grades than Monoposto despite being broadly similar speeds and cars). I'd assume the intention is to stop championships that require lots of drivers to traipse around the country from taking place leaving the ground clear for local stuff (like Castle Combe's championships) and non-championship races.

There is a flaw in this theory: some of the biggest grids and numbers of participants race with the CSCC, and none of their competitions are championships.
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"No national or British championship events will take place in July
to reduce potential national and international travel (excludes FIA
championships)."

in plain English (or optionally plain German) ??

What does take place ?
and what not ?

If I read that correctly then most historic racing cant take place as most of it is a "National event"

this rates a good 9,1 on the 0-10 garbled-scale

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Their list of British Championships reads:

Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship
British Rally Championship
British GT Championship
BRDC British F3 Championship
F4 British Championship – Certified by FIA, Powered by Ford EcoBoost
Fuchs Lubricants Motorsport UK British Historic Rally Championship
TOYO Tires British Rallycross Championship
Motorsport UK British Drag Racing Championship
Avon Tyres/Wynn Developments Motorsport UK British Hill Climb Championship
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British Superkart Championship
British Kart Championships
British Autotest Championship
British Sporting Trials Championship
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Maxxis Tyres English Rally Championship
McGrady Insurance Northern Ireland Rally Championship
ARR Craib Scottish Rally Championship
Pirelli Welsh Rally Championship
Protyre Asphalt Rally Championship
Britpart Cross Country Championship
British Indoor Karting Championship

Their list of National Championships is usually listed under the National Competitions Authorised for Foreign Participation (NCAFP), of which there are currently none.

The FIA Exemptions would apply to F1, WEC and WRC.
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what excactly does this mean:


"No national or British championship events will take place in July
to reduce potential national and international travel (excludes FIA
championships)."

in plain English (or optionally plain German) ??

What does take place ?
and what not ?

If I read that correctly then most historic racing cant take place as most of it is a "National event"

this rates a good 9,1 on the 0-10 garbled-scale

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My interpretation is that it means that “club racing” can take place in July, whether historic or not, but not things like British GT, F3, BTCC as these meetings generally require more marshals, more officials, more infrastructure, more large teams with numerous staff, more hospitality etc.
I guess that they are assuming that club racing can take place with less people overall. They may also be using club racing as an experiment to see if it can take place within the guidelines?
As for CSCC and other clubs with big participation, it may be that numbers of helpers have to be limited but I would still suggest that social distancing can be observed. Not sure what happens at drivers change overs when help with belts is required though. PPE, I suppose.
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I think if you read the document sent out a week ago, that driver change events are banned. Rallying will take place without a co-driver. Shared drives are not allowed at the kart tracks that are now open.

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I think if you read the document sent out a week ago, that driver change events are banned. Rallying will take place without a co-driver. Shared drives are not allowed at the kart tracks that are now open.

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I dont think so. Istr it saying that pit stops shoulld be extended by c30sec to allow contact areas to be sanitised.

Eta, just checked the guidance issued on 18 May:
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• For events requiring driver changes the time period for the change must allow for sanitisation of the contact areas within the vehicle. (+30 seconds)
• Shared use of an internal breather and hydration system is prohibited

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Thank goodness there are some series that don’t require pitstops unless needed. Mind you some series like British GT have had minimum pitlane times, like a minute, so for some it might not make much of a difference
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