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22 Jul 2024, 13:12 (Ref:4220257) | #51 | |
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I had a very enjoyable couple of days.
Having been equally apprehensive at seeing everything labelled as demonstration runs this was not the case. Even the rally demos were being driven with far more determination from the drivers by Sunday. Credit to the rally Quattro S1 and V8 Firenza who decided to take the hairpin sideways every lap. It was a shame they decided to run so many cars together on the Sunday and some of the grids looked more like circuit racing. I am guessing they were worried about the 4PM noise curfew but ended up with a load of time to spare in the end. |
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22 Jul 2024, 16:09 (Ref:4220277) | #52 | ||
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Went on Saturday having not been to Lydden for about 10 years. The Circuit looked really smart and tidy along with the new entrance. The range of catering outlets was excellent and reasonably priced.
The Retro racing was very very good with a wide range of cars mainly being driven hard. The Supercars need their wings clipped as I think they're simply to fast and as a result it's clearly difficult to overtake. All in all a great day and I won't leave it so long to go back again. |
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22 Jul 2024, 16:34 (Ref:4220279) | #53 | ||
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Seen some of the clips
Soon as the O Donovans sod off and go to rallying the better, they must be a nightmare to race against. I would be almost tempted to line up that idiot and follow him into the fence I really would., |
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I noted that when he was following during one of the races (sorry, demos ) on Sunday he backed off several times when following Kenneth. Quote:
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Delecour might not have been quite as flamboyant as Liam in the RS200, but he was great to watch. Real shame he didn't run the last couple of sessions. The Delta S4 was hugely entertaining and they really looked like they were trying in the Group B cars. With regards to the Ollie incident I always try and remain objective on these situations, but it does frequently seem to be OOD at the "scene of the crime". Wasn't surprised to see it end that way, as Ollie and John had traded paint a couple of times during the day. Shame for Patrick as I felt that incident overshadowed his win(s). I think the event has a lot of potential and I really hope they run it again in 2026. |
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23 Jul 2024, 22:11 (Ref:4220389) | #55 | ||
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Having not been for many years where have the Proctor/Bellerbys gone? Always a friendly bunch.
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Kevin Procter hasn't been around for a few years. I think the 2021 pre-season test was the last time he was on a rallycross track, but I am not 100% certain on that. His Fiesta is now in the hands of Tommy Graham. |
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24 Jul 2024, 09:52 (Ref:4220437) | #57 | ||
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Procter has gone back to rallying
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He is still active in rallying and given that I think he sold a large chunk of his coach operation very recently, he might well have the time and money to race again! |
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25 Jul 2024, 08:23 (Ref:4220534) | #59 | ||
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Did Mark Rennison actually attend, I keep seeing footage saying Harris was driving his car?
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29 Jul 2024, 11:03 (Ref:4220989) | #60 | ||
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30 Jul 2024, 10:33 (Ref:4221126) | #61 | ||
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That is a shame, he would have been the only reason I would have gone!! A bit of a hero of mine back in the day. Wonder why he did not go, money praps!!
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Even later than usual from me (been even more life distractions than usual in the last fortnight), but some photos from Lydden... ...more here: Flickr - Lydden Legend 2024 If any of you want to see them! |
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6 Aug 2024, 08:57 (Ref:4221940) | #63 | ||
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Some cracking photos there
A great variety of cars as well - good to see them being used properly. The only oddity really is Liam's Autograss Mini - not sure why that was there, out of place and a bit unnecessary. The Autograss cars are impressive but it doesn't really have a place at a Rallycross event? |
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Cheers, pleased to get some decent angles of some of my favourites!
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That said it was only out for a few minutes at a time and I enjoyed seeing it on track. I have been repeatedly saying it for years now, but I have got to get myself to an autograss event. If one car is that much fun to watch then a whole pack of them must be very entertaining! I wonder if Liam might enter the Lydden sprint event in an autograss car later in the year? |
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7 Aug 2024, 07:02 (Ref:4222045) | #65 | ||
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You might be disappointed after the initial buzz of autograss, a lot of classes are identikit using the same cars and designs, Liam is actually out of date with that car most of the quick stuff now uses Chevies or very well tuned car engines, bikes are still the most popular, but as I say it can be very stop start, a bit like speedway, and a lot of the ingenuity of the older times has gone.
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I'm expecting autograss to be quite similar to grasstrack in that sense... won't know until I try though! |
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7 Aug 2024, 17:16 (Ref:4222097) | #67 | ||
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It is nothing like what you know.
There are multiple classes, 10 in all plus separate ladies racing and kids, the cars are basically split into 10 classes Doran's is a class7, some are basic, most are modified then you have specials which are single seat a bit like the crap buggies in rallycross. But as I say the classes now have mostly morphed into single make formulas, in the past literally anything went within reason. Only tracks near you are Kent league not sure where they are though, try NASA the governing body |
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7 Aug 2024, 18:11 (Ref:4222111) | #68 | |||
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I have done a bit of Googling in the past and seen a brief summary of the various classes, so I have a rough idea on the cars. From what I have seen Class 7 is what I am going for, as they seem to be the most sideways of the lot. |
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8 Aug 2024, 08:43 (Ref:4222149) | #69 | ||
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Probably not true really all the rwd stuff is like that, but the 7's have the most power and are basically unlimited engines, but most run like Doran, twin bikes.
It has developed it's own little cottage industry of people doing chassis, engines and gearboxes, as it runs all over the UK now whereas in hte past it was more regional. a lot of clubs have gone but a lot still remain and it is a very exclusively British sport they run similar stuff in Europe but nothing like autograss really, mainly autocross |
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8 Aug 2024, 14:08 (Ref:4222166) | #70 | ||
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Going back to rallycross, and more specifically Lydden, I noticed that the tyre stack on the curb after the jump was absent for Legend. Minor change, but I thought it improved the line of cars coming off the jump and heading for the Elbow.
Obviously improved the lap times as well, as Patrick beat his own best lap on the new layout (was 43.528 in the 208, now 43.470 in the Iriz). Whilst getting my nerd on and looking at lap times I also noticed - and I don't think he has been mentioned in recent discussion here - how much single lap pace that Michael Leonard has. He is a bit inconsistent but, other than Patrick, he was the only driver who posted multiple 44 second lap times throughout the weekend. |
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