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I still have my doubts that McLaren (and others) would want to join a series that would so obviously be The Ferrari GP Championship.
This has gone too far - I honestly belive that two months ago a solution was possible - a higher cap for 2010, progressivly lower and the teams support new entrants (none of which are 'GP3' standard as Ferrari put it). But all the side have now dug in their heals and won't compromise one wheel cap. Sad, sad, sad. A breakaway series can only have the effect of destroying both F1 and the new series. What happens in 2011 when Renault and BMW pull out? Some of these teams clearly want to leave, but they are almost staying put just to prove a point now. Lets get beyond our own personal views on the protagonists. I can't stand Max, and think Bernie is determined to drive the sport to destruction in 10 years time for some quick oil bucks now. B-U-T: All the protagonists involved here have points where they are right and points where they are wrong. Max, Bernie, FOTA. All arguments have strengths and weaknesses. I fear two rival series will simply highlight the weaknesses on both sides rather than a stronger F1 where the positives of both can be allowed. Stupid, stupid, stupid. |
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What a mess. I hope common sense prevails here. One question weren't the manufactures themselves (Briatore for one) complaining of over spending in F1. I remember last year half the grid was worried about excessive cost. What happened? All of the sudden the economy turned around.
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I've to say that I am totally surprised with all that is happening ! That's utterly preposterous !
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Bernie will have someone in mind well before then,probably even now! But he'll be around for quite some time yet I think,even if he can't make it to the circuits any more.
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You sound like someone's wife..."You ALWAYS do that...." That's a little simple, isn't it? Some have run for 30 years before they "failed," and failed for reasons unrelated to whether they were "team run" or not. No shortage of motor racing series that were NOT team run have failed. The issue is here is the rentention of the revenue to the teams and tracks. A friend of mine who has spent four decades in professional motorsport around the globe recently wrote, "All you need for a race is a track and teams." You don't need some damn "supremo" raking off the cash and shutting down the traditional venues. |
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It looks like Bernie is stood all alone in a field holding his ball while the big boys are walking away with their bat.
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Jab, I agree on the medals thing at least, but most of the otherstuff, I do not, especially on the circuits (but there's a thread on track safety in "My Tracks" for that).
The attention will go with the big teams and known drivers. It's that simple. And manufacturers will spend what they can while they can, and pull out if they're dictated to. They only take real guff on their own terms, and this is nothing new. BTW, the competitiveness of the 1982 season mentioned above was helped along by a career-ending accident (Pironi) and a fatal crash (Villeneuve). |
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I was wodering if the manufacturers do leave or are effectively shown the door, who would provide the engines?
And true what would become of TV rights money and the effect of this? Would TV be less interested and therfore would coverage be less reliable and/or extensive? |
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