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Old 2 Feb 2004, 12:05 (Ref:860057)   #1
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Button Break Lap Records, Again!

Whooaaa!

Jenson Button break laprecords in Barcelona, he goes into the 1.13.8!

http://www.autosport.co.uk/newsitem.asp?id=25912&s=5

I know its just testing, but
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Old 2 Feb 2004, 12:08 (Ref:860063)   #2
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The new BAR looks good. Lets hope all this pre season testing form yields some results during the season
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Old 2 Feb 2004, 12:12 (Ref:860067)   #3
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Bring it on.....yesss.
It would be really good if both renault and BAR could give some of the top three a run for their money at some of this years races and really open up the championship.

Cant wait until the start of the season.....
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Old 2 Feb 2004, 12:26 (Ref:860084)   #4
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hopefully this season will pave the way for buttons arrival at Williams as a top rated driver!
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Here's hoping!

BAR are obviously enjoying their testing. Otherwise they wouldn't be affording Jenson the luxury of the odd blast on low fuel. But we shouldn't get carried away - as is always the case with testing, we don't know what fuel other cars are carrying, and it's difficult to be sure what stage everyone is at in their development programme.

But it sure is good psychologically, and intentional or otherwise it's great PR for establishing Jenson as BAR's No. 1 for 2004, and (hopefully) establishing BAR as a team ready to improve their results.

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But we shouldn't get carried away - as is always the case with testing, we don't know what fuel other cars are carrying, and it's difficult to be sure what stage everyone is at in their development programme.

Agreed on that, and to be fair, after Jenson beat the lap record 2 weeks ago, he did admit to using a car that was in qualifying trim.

For me, Japan 2003 was a fair indication of how the BAR could go . The only team to go on a genuine 2 stop stratergy and have 2 cars finish in the points, their best result of the season.
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Why this big rush to see Jenson at Williams, when the Honda is really beginning to step out?

If Jenson could do with BAR, what JV was never able to, win, wouldn't that be so much sweeter than going to a top team like Williams?

If JB gets this team into the top 4, and that could be a real possibility, I don't see him going anywhere.
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Why this big rush to see Jenson at Williams, when the Honda is really beginning to step out?

If Jenson could do with BAR, what JV was never able to, win, wouldn't that be so much sweeter than going to a top team like Williams?

Fraid not, the best BAR could hope for is that win, which would be lucky given that the Ferrari, Williams, McLaren and Renault are all likely to be better.

What would be sweeter? A win with BAR, or multiple race wins and a possible WDC with Williams?

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For me, Japan 2003 was a fair indication of how the BAR could go . The only team to go on a genuine 2 stop stratergy and have 2 cars finish in the points, their best result of the season.
Add (or rather subtract) the one second per lap that Michelins are reputed to be worth and you'd have an even more impressive performance.
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The sweetest thing (never be a hit ) would be a couple of wins in a BAR, followed by a WDC campaign in a Williams...
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Fraid not, the best BAR could hope for is that win, which would be lucky given that the Ferrari, Williams, McLaren and Renault are all likely to be better.

What would be sweeter? A win with BAR, or multiple race wins and a possible WDC with Williams?
Renault at #4 this year, could be in question. They have a new engine and have lost there chief designer. It should make things abit more interesting, and give BAR or Toyota a shot.

But you are right about the better possibility of being WDC with Williams. What was I thinking when I wrote that!
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Mr. V you have a point. However, I think it would be even better if JB could get multiple wins with a team that he helped bring to the top. It would be much more rewarding in a BAR. He would not enjoy life as much at Williams.

This is testing so we dont know yet. I dont like the way they (BAR) are doing things. IMO they need to be a little more humble, but thats not the way to get sponsors and attention, I guess.

This is great news either way though. It may also indicate the new car is faster than the intermediate. That may be the whole reason for the second low fuel run. Juat for comparison. Now they know where they are starting with the new car.

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Running in qualifying trim is perfectly legitimate and useful in its own right. They need to know lots more about the car in low fuel conditions than can be known from just taking the gas out of a standard car - it might be that the optimum set-up has some features of a pure qualifying one (such as stiffer suspension).

Added to which the record that he broke would also have been set in similar spec, I'd have thought, since all the teams will run on low fuel once in a while for the same reason. There is of course a very important distinction between this proceedure and the dubious practice of literally running light (minus some ballast and under the limit) in order to grab headlines, which could yet turn out to be what they are doing - although i doubt it.
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Well it's not really a "Lap Record" Alonso holds that as it has to be achieved in an official race situation.

Clearly it was a one shot qualifying lap with low fuel on new tyres...but even so for a car that only turned a wheel for the first time yesterday that's a great start!

What intrigues me is why none of the other teams feels challenged enough to reveal their hand an do a 'qualy' run!?

To me it either means they know BAR are 'on it' or they are hidding their own true potential...whatever it seems this years crop of cars are going to be quicker than last years!

I would also guess that teams like Ferrari havn't shown us their new cars yet...all we've seen is the 'Press car' We'll have to wait another 5 weeks before we see the real configurations!
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