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Old 16 Feb 2004, 06:25 (Ref:875418)   #1
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Webber: Kimi better than JPM

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Interesting, I agree but do YOU?!
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Old 16 Feb 2004, 06:35 (Ref:875420)   #2
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Doesn't really require a degree in rocket science to see that.Kimi's the Crown Prince in waiting,JPM's just the Court Jester.
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Old 16 Feb 2004, 07:26 (Ref:875458)   #4
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Kimis more level headed and its easy to see why some jurnos refer to him as the new ice man. JPM is always in a hurry which has cost him (AGP 03).For the excitment and unpredicability JPM wins because anything can happen but Kimis more controlled so he gets the vote.

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Old 16 Feb 2004, 08:03 (Ref:875487)   #5
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Re: Webber: Kimi better than JPM

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Interesting, I agree but do YOU?!
Agree or not, its just Webber's opinion.

But, I think Mark was too much talking recently.
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Old 16 Feb 2004, 09:29 (Ref:875555)   #6
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Re: Re: Webber: Kimi better than JPM

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Agree or not, its just Webber's opinion.

But, I think Mark was too much talking recently.
His only done 2 interviews . I think its more a case of spin doctering .

But I agree with him Kimmi is better
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Old 16 Feb 2004, 09:45 (Ref:875570)   #7
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My feeling is that he is right too, though I suppose we'll have a better idea after 2005!
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Old 16 Feb 2004, 10:39 (Ref:875644)   #8
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Seeing them in the same team next season will be amazing. If the McLaren is inferior to the Williams next season (which looks likely) Juan has mroe chance of getting the upper hand. If he doesn't, and considering Ron's apparent love of Finnish drivers I suspect Kimi will get subtly favourable trreatment, he may not be able to show his best form.

deeks' analysis is quite accurate in my view. Kimi is younger and much less experienced, but maybe Juan can learn to control his wilder moments - there were signs of that as 2003 went on.

It's not as if Kimi didn't make mistakes last season, but the two in Spain were the only major ones. He always seemed to get the best out of the car, but perhaps never went beyond the obvious performance limits, whereas JPM did in Australia, Japan and Germany. A season where a lot of mistakes and relibaility problems occurred suited Kimi's relatively unobtrusive style - can he really charge at thigns when needed?
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Doesn't really require a degree in rocket science to see that.Kimi's the Crown Prince in waiting,JPM's just the Court Jester.
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... considering Ron's apparent love of Finnish drivers I suspect Kimi will get subtly favourable trreatment, he may not be able to show his best form...
I don't think Ron hired JPM just to give him lesser chances to win: if his intention was to keep Kimi as first driver, why replacing DC?

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He'll get the same treatment, equipment and chances as Kimi. Although this is really a little off topic and could destroy the thread if we go there!

Anyway. I think they are close. They have many similarities as well as differences too. I really don't think we can say at the moment, but I give it to Montoya, just (it isn't based on that much, because frankly it can't be). I look forward to finding out in 2005 and onwards. A fantastic team pairing and something I am looking farward to as I am a fan of both. Wait and see.
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Ron said in this months F1Racing mag interview that part of the reason for signing JPM was to stop him from going to Ferrari (possibly).

Ron, as does Sir Frank proberbly know more about drivers than any other team owner in F1, and funnily enough, both have secured JPM's services.

Kimi's a massive talent no doubt, but he only won once this season (should have been twice) JPM won twice (should have been 4 times)

I relish the prospect of their partnership in 2005.
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I agree - it'll be a great partnership.

Having the best two drivers you can get is usually the best way to develop the car and drive the team forwards.
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I certainly think Kimi and JPM are evenly matched and anticipate 2005 with great, errr, anticipation.

For me though, Kimi just edges it. What he did last year was more impressive than Montoya.
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Old 16 Feb 2004, 21:00 (Ref:876249)   #15
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Having the best two drivers you can get is usually the best way to develop the car and drive the team forwards.
This is true so long as at least onr of them can set up and develop a car properly. We know that this side of things is not JPM's strong point and Kimi hasn't yet proven himself in that regard, at least in what I've read/seen. Of course, they are both getting better so by 2005 one (or both) of them might have this side of things covered too.
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