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Old 25 Jul 2021, 21:11 (Ref:4063136)   #106
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Just got back from four days in orange in That London. Great weekend.

I had custody of what appeared to be the only stretch of track where nobody hit the walls (T21/22), saw some extremely audacious overtakes via the classic "stick the car up the inside" manoeuvre, and generally had quite a good time. Standing in the hole at the back of the grid when they started each race was just *awesome* - these cars might not have a super-high top speed, but by god they get off the line quickly.

ExCeL itself, inside (so I stayed dry!) looked like a massive theatre or concert venue with a race track down the middle. Very, very different.

Good job today's race was an hour earlier than yesterday, given the amount of water that fell on London half an hour after the flag fell. The drive back north was really rather challenging...

I'm yet to watch the full races, so I'll reserve final judgement until I do. But I enjoyed the weekend, myself.
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Old 26 Jul 2021, 08:05 (Ref:4063164)   #107
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Derwent has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
It was quite dreadful to watch on TV. There didn't seem to be many spectators there either. How is the thing funded?
The idea of taking racing to the people is completely false unless you live within 20 miles of the track. For other spectators you have to travel into a city with all the costs and hassle that involves. Remember that football fans go to away matches and that the big city teams have fans who travel long distances to watch their "team".
Where there any support races?
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Old 26 Jul 2021, 09:10 (Ref:4063188)   #108
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another perk of having it in the city is that people can use public transport to get there which fits with the eco message. there’s a vast number of people living within 20 miles of excel.

there weren’t many spectators because iirc they couldn’t get clarity from the government early enough to be able to plan and sell tickets. so they decided not to confuse people, send mixed messages or sell tickets they ended up having to refund. new york was messy and iirc they wanted to avoid that confusion.
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I was led to understand that HMG would not grant the event permission to run as an Pilot Event, so a decision was made a while back to only have hospitality people and invited guests - on Sunday, I think a lot of the folks outside by the T16 hairpin complex were key workers who'd been involved in the COVID response in London (although I may stand corrected on that).

Given that FE is a global series, they're still running to fairly tight restrictions. Everyone involved - team personnel, drivers, marshals, officials, ExCeL staff, security, hospitality hosts etc. were swabbed for PCR tests every 48 hours. Mine were Thursday and Saturday (both negative for me thankfully!). I understand that everyone attending as a guest had to also have some form of test but I'm not sure what, I didn't see much of that side of things.

Something that surprised us on Friday was the appearance of one Mr Masi, which put added pressure on my team during the shakedown as he came out to opposite my post when they ran the "red car" exercise - that's a full simulation of a car with a high voltage open electrical failure and an injured driver. When the car stopped with us, I had a bit of a "hair on neck" moment as I realised he was watching! No pressure
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Old 26 Jul 2021, 11:14 (Ref:4063215)   #110
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There was no spectators during a global pandemic where we're still working out restrictions!? Oh no!

Dear lord. Formula E is far from perfect but people love to criticise it for things that other series have issues with too.
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Formula E is far from perfect but people love to criticise it for things that other series have issues with too.
I also think a lot of people criticise because it is different to existing series - but isn't that the point, that it is different?

It is not Formula 1 - so comparisons are meaningless.

We've seen enough posts discussing how to 'fix' F1, yet also see just as strong a claim being put forward for why a different series doesn't look / sound like a F1 race?

With a few exceptions, major series tend to run on tracks that suit the cars and fanbase.
F1 needs wide expanses with designs that allow cars to overtake without having to follow closely for a few laps.
BTCC needs short lap times, and tighter, twistier tracks to deliver close racing.
RallyX needs a change of surface over a short lap.
FE needs a tight twisty circuit with short straights, and near a populated centre.
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I also think a lot of people criticise because it is different to existing series - but isn't that the point, that it is different?

It is not Formula 1 - so comparisons are meaningless.

We've seen enough posts discussing how to 'fix' F1, yet also see just as strong a claim being put forward for why a different series doesn't look / sound like a F1 race?

With a few exceptions, major series tend to run on tracks that suit the cars and fanbase.
F1 needs wide expanses with designs that allow cars to overtake without having to follow closely for a few laps.
BTCC needs short lap times, and tighter, twistier tracks to deliver close racing.
RallyX needs a change of surface over a short lap.
FE needs a tight twisty circuit with short straights, and near a populated centre.
Perfect post IMO. 10/10.

Also, I do enjoy FE. I enjoy the electric part. People assume you want that for everything. I don't. I want my FE electric and different. I want my GT3s big loud and shouty. I want my F1 screamy etc.

FE is different. Stop trying to make it the same as other things.
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One thing I will say about FE: when the lights go out, the acceleration is breathtaking. Except for Mortara yesterday, whose drivetrain made a horrible noise when he moved up to take the grid position just before the start and didn't move when the lights went out. He was only just missed by the two cars immediately behind him.

Marshalling a race meeting indoors. More of that, please!
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