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Old 23 Jun 2021, 04:58 (Ref:4057819)   #5536
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I don't see why they should, 16 is enough races.
I think they should have given Green Savoree another race, simply because they have lost Toronto twice and Portland once, not to mention the cost of setting up for St. Pete twice last year. Perhaps they were offered the option of a two race weekend at Mid Ohio and turned it down. I have no idea, but they seem to have suffered a lot in the past two seasons.


I really like the double header weekends. They seldom have played out to be repeat performances, but it's fun to think about whatever factors came into play during race one when watching race two.
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Old 26 Jun 2021, 06:22 (Ref:4058246)   #5537
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I like the double headers as well. It's interesting how the second race is almost always filled with more aggression and carnage than the first. Not sure if its fatigue or letting loose because they dont have to save the car for the next day like in the first races. And more races is always better imo.
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Old 28 Jun 2021, 13:56 (Ref:4058645)   #5538
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I understand the need for doubleheaders, but I don't really like them for professional series like IndyCar. I prefer each weekend to have a single winner.

I don't mind double or triple headers at junior series, since they need as much track time as possible.
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Looks like there will be driver changes at Andretti Autosport.


https://racer.com/2021/06/28/andrett...ahead-of-2022/
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Old 29 Jun 2021, 13:38 (Ref:4058841)   #5540
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https://racer.com/2021/06/28/andrett...ahead-of-2022/
I was wondering how much longer RHR can keep his seat. Also not sure if they stay with 4 cars next season. I guess if some of the younger guys they are evaluating bring money that is a much easier choice.
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I was wondering how much longer RHR can keep his seat. Also not sure if they stay with 4 cars next season. I guess if some of the younger guys they are evaluating bring money that is a much easier choice.

RH-R is 40 and is no spring chicken, then again Scott Dixon is also 40. RH-R's last win was at Sonoma in 2018 and he finished 4th that year in the driver's championship. Things have been a bit lean since then. His best finish was third at Mid-Ohio last year.

Andretti says ''the goal is to stay at four cars'', and mentions there are Indy Lights drivers who have the budget for IndyCar.
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RH-R is 40 and is no spring chicken, then again Scott Dixon is also 40. RH-R's last win was at Sonoma in 2018 and he finished 4th that year in the driver's championship. Things have been a bit lean since then. His best finish was third at Mid-Ohio last year.

Andretti says ''the goal is to stay at four cars'', and mentions there are Indy Lights drivers who have the budget for IndyCar.
Do you think they will be replacing Hinch as well?

Herta is doing well, and Rossi is not having his best season. In a few races this year the Shank cars have actually outperformed Andretti (who is their technical partner). I was just trying to think if there were some teamwide issues on the performance side of things playing a role here, or if it is driver related.

My best guess is that there are simply too many good drivers out there and it is hard to get a decent result in Indycar this year!
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Do you think they will be replacing Hinch as well?

Herta is doing well, and Rossi is not having his best season. In a few races this year the Shank cars have actually outperformed Andretti (who is their technical partner). I was just trying to think if there were some teamwide issues on the performance side of things playing a role here, or if it is driver related.

My best guess is that there are simply too many good drivers out there and it is hard to get a decent result in Indycar this year!
Hinch is done unless Honda fully funds the car plus enough to cover Herta to 100%. His results aren't making them enough.

RHR is done unless DHL renews fully again and it seemed they were hesitant to continue last off season and we haven't heard a renewal yet.

Rossi is kinda stuck because he can't really move up without other pieces falling his way, Pagenaud or Power getting fired or Dixon retiring. Would you risk a lateral, this season at least, move to MSR? And could they get enough to keep him on board?

I'm amazed Herta can't bring enough in for a full season single sponsor and it's been rumored the other partners are filling that car's budget. Possibly from those in the paddock with an axe to grind against him but stranger things have happened and he couldn't get the Steinbrenner run team funded.

It will be interesting to see who wins the RTI money, think one guy is heavily funded and near the top but the others are like Askew and need the RTI bump to get in the field. 1 funded seat for maybe 3 guys and they better hope they can run a Honda if Andretti can snag some extra money
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Do you think they will be replacing Hinch as well?

Herta is doing well, and Rossi is not having his best season. In a few races this year the Shank cars have actually outperformed Andretti (who is their technical partner). I was just trying to think if there were some teamwide issues on the performance side of things playing a role here, or if it is driver related.

My best guess is that there are simply too many good drivers out there and it is hard to get a decent result in Indycar this year!

I really don't know. He was driving for them part time last year and and now has a full time ride with one of the partner teams, Andretti Steinbrenner Autosport. He brings in money, hence the full time ride but he hasn't delivered the goods. He's currently 20th in the drive's championship, with his best result 14th in Detroit Race 2.

Andretti Autosport have a bit of dilemma on their hands regarding Hinch, He can win races, which he's not but he also brings in the money. Michael Andretti mentioned in the Racer article bringing in drivers from Indy Lights, who have the budget but they are an unknown quantity as far as racing In IndyCar itself is concerned. Therefore on that basis I would be inclined to keep Hinch on but for one more season. Whatever decision they make will have to be made in conjunction with Andretti Steinbrenner Autosport.

I think the problem Andretti Autosport has is twofold. Firstly, there is a fourth team now in the mix, namely AMSP, or SPAM as I like to call them, so there is more competition on the track, when before it was usually a three-way battle with Andretti Autosport, Ganassi and Penske. Secondly, with the partner teams Andretti Autosport support, and there are three of them, I get the feeling they are spreading themselves too thin and are not able to concentrate on themselves.
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Firstly, there is a fourth team now in the mix, namely AMSP, or SPAM as I like to call them, so there is more competition on the track, when before it was usually a three-way battle with Andretti Autosport, Ganassi and Penske. Secondly, with the partner teams Andretti Autosport support, and there are three of them, I get the feeling they are spreading themselves too thin and are not able to concentrate on themselves.
I never understood why they got so angry at RM for calling them SPAM in a loving manner. I don't think any of us called them that in a demeaning manner, but rather as a term of fun and endearment. But I'm guessing Arrow marketing people may not have liked being bumped from the front.

And think you're on to something with the Andretti tech partners. While Penske has their own, they know how to keep their own house in order first and then supply the others. Think Andretti tried to spread the research costs across too many teams and can't quite keep up.

How much of the budget does Hinch bring? He better bring a lot more than the rumored partial season Honda of Canada was willing to pony up when he was let go to keep his seat.
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I never understood why they got so angry at RM for calling them SPAM in a loving manner. I don't think any of us called them that in a demeaning manner, but rather as a term of fun and endearment. But I'm guessing Arrow marketing people may not have liked being bumped from the front.

And think you're on to something with the Andretti tech partners. While Penske has their own, they know how to keep their own house in order first and then supply the others. Think Andretti tried to spread the research costs across too many teams and can't quite keep up.

How much of the budget does Hinch bring? He better bring a lot more than the rumored partial season Honda of Canada was willing to pony up when he was let go to keep his seat.

Considering Hinch went from 6 races last year, to a full-time ride this year, suggests Honda of Canada are willing to pony up, or he has another revenue source, or that Steinbrenner has deep pockets. Steinbrenner's family own the Yankees, so he won't be short of a buck or two.
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Considering Hinch went from 6 races last year, to a full-time ride this year, suggests Honda of Canada are willing to pony up, or he has another revenue source, or that Steinbrenner has deep pockets. Steinbrenner's family own the Yankees, so he won't be short of a buck or two.
The Steinbrenners are MASSIVELY cutting player and personnel payrolls this year with the Yankees, they are losing money fast. And they didn't pony up anything for Herta previously, doubt any money is coming in from the family at all. Given the statements from Hal (dad to GMS IV) prior to his death the racing is George Michael's thing not the family.
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The Steinbrenners are MASSIVELY cutting player and personnel payrolls this year with the Yankees, they are losing money fast. And they didn't pony up anything for Herta previously, doubt any money is coming in from the family at all. Given the statements from Hal (dad to GMS IV) prior to his death the racing is George Michael's thing not the family.

I always understood the IndyCar venture was GMS IV's and his alone. I thought maybe the family had given him some assistance.
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I missed this story before, but we will have a first time Indycar driver at Mid-Ohio this weekend. Ryan Norman has done Indy Lights in the past but has been in TCR recently.

https://www.indycar.com/news/2021/06/06-24-norman-coyne
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Ryan Norman has a better CV than Dalton Kellett.


BTW, Gabby Chaves will replace him at this weekend's IMSA TCR race.
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