drbob's next car? - Page 8

Gerard C · 1 Dec 2019, 14:56 (Ref:3944042)

Well may be #191 from 4/1965 would be better. Anyway, there's a special appendix in PA regulation for ISO A3/C, Jaguar Type E, Shelby Cobra, Shelby 350 GT et Porsche 911. Just ask.

Willmaz223 · 1 Dec 2019, 19:25 (Ref:3944091)

Just another link to a car ( Corvette Stingray C2 7.0 ) but thought I'd post as it is 'claimed' to be able to run with the Cobras and is pretty cheap.

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/De...g-ray---reduce

Good luck on finding a Mustang Bob.

Gerard C · 1 Dec 2019, 19:46 (Ref:3944098)

Ha yes? Since when 396 ci make 7 litre? Is it out of VAT or pre-Brexit?

**Mike Bell** · 1 Dec 2019, 19:52 (Ref:3944101)

Let’s be honest, the seller is not going to claim that the car can’t run with Cobras etc.....

6.5 litres? That’s not far off.....

Willmaz223 · 1 Dec 2019, 19:59 (Ref:3944104)

It does seem a little far fetched

More posted out of how ridiculous a little it sounded.

Gerard C · 1 Dec 2019, 20:11 (Ref:3944109)

This one is a FHT. When we had to chose the version we would like to race in CER to win the GT category, we were surprised to see that some years were "better" than others…*Bonnet scoop present or not, fake or not, rear part of the front wings moulded with louvers and so on. We ended with a very light looking good body. And a 427 which IS really close to 7 litre… And you can't imagine what a good carb can do for this kind of toy! I still have my bench figures in mind. Impressive and user friendly. I loved this car.

drbob · 2 Dec 2019, 08:18 (Ref:3944175)

Now Will that is a good find, I’m now keen on a Corvette as well
I’ve had a look at the car, well the advertisement any way
I see it’s price reduced so it’s been on the market for a while
It has a hill climb race FIA HTP so I wonder it is fully race spec
But I don’t understand this:
Looking at the FIA Database for homologation for the pre 66 Corvettes I cannot see anything for 65 Vettes with a big engine and 4 wheel disc brakes
There is no extension to the homologation that I can see authorising those improvements
What am I missing
That said very interested

Gerard C · 2 Dec 2019, 11:17 (Ref:3944223)

I think disc brakes were homologated from February '66, vented front, solid rear, center lock wheels.
You could contact PA directly as said above they have special accommodations for some cars, including the 'Vette. I'm sure we had discs all round but it was in 2007/2008, équipage Dumas and me.
May you'll find evidences of car using a big block and four discs entered in an international event but any bit must have been legally used…
You can also run a '66 car and have it accepted in the invitation class.
I think its a really enjoyable car even though its really hard to stop…
To the question what are you missing, my answer is nothing!

Gerard C · 2 Dec 2019, 11:24 (Ref:3944226)

Peter Auto website. Series. Sixties' endurance . After Article 3 VOITURES ADMISES you'll find A Voitures éligibles blah blah blah then
ARTICLE 4-TECHNIQUE and this will appear: Les ISO A3/C, Jaguar Type E, Shelby Cobra, Shelby 350 GT et Porsche 911 sont soumises à une réglementation spécifique. (Documents disponibles sur demande). Worth a discussion with Mike and a phone call to France, dont you think so?

**Mike Bell** · 2 Dec 2019, 13:07 (Ref:3944263)

I’m sure Dr Bob is capable without having to involve me!

The dealer / seller is well known in the world of historic racing, and I’ve not heard anything to suggest he is anything but honest! (But he is a dealer....

)

There has been a 1964 C2 Corvette racing in PA 60s Endurance, not so much in 2019 though. Dutch owned, and pretty sure a ‘big block’. Also black.....

Willmaz223 · 2 Dec 2019, 13:58 (Ref:3944279)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

I’m sure Dr Bob is capable without having to involve me!

The dealer / seller is well known in the world of historic racing, and I’ve not heard anything to suggest he is anything but honest! (But he is a dealer....

)

There has been a 1964 C2 Corvette racing in PA 60s Endurance, not so much in 2019 though. Dutch owned, and pretty sure a ‘big block’. Also black.....

I know the one ,the driver also races a Mustang aswell I believe in the NKHTGT series.

Yes,just look at the list of cars he is selling.

**Mike Bell** · 2 Dec 2019, 14:09 (Ref:3944281)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willmaz223

I know the one ,the driver also races a Mustang aswell I believe in the NKHTGT series.

Yes, just look at the list of cars he is selling.

Correct, and yes! A friend was contemplating the M1 that was for sale with the dealer, but eventually went for something else (and British).....

pomracer · 3 Dec 2019, 15:58 (Ref:3944573)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard C

I think disc brakes were homologated from February '66, vented front, solid rear, center lock wheels.
You could contact PA directly as said above they have special accommodations for some cars, including the 'Vette. I'm sure we had discs all round but it was in 2007/2008, équipage Dumas and me.
May you'll find evidences of car using a big block and four discs entered in an international event but any bit must have been legally used…
You can also run a '66 car and have it accepted in the invitation class.
I think its a really enjoyable car even though its really hard to stop…
To the question what are you missing, my answer is nothing!

To race in pre 66, Period F, you need a "1965" spec car which was homologated with (vented) disc brakes all round, and the 396 cubic inch big block engine, NOT the 427. The car was homologated with a "big tank" fuel tank which is further forward and helps weight distribution.
Talking of which, whatever you do with the fibreglass body you cannot get them below a certain weight as the chassis is substantial, but you can extract quite a lot of power out of the 396 these days.
Beware some cars run the incorrect 67 hood/bonnet, and of course incorrect engine.
I cannot remember the homologation number, but there are two if not three sets of different homologation papers on the FIA database including the earlier '63 split rear window car with 327 cu inch and drum brakes, so it is easy to get confused.

Gerard C · 3 Dec 2019, 19:03 (Ref:3944614)

Think you're right and when looking for discs homologated all round, the homologation form number should be # 523. From the data base I read it was received in October '65 and valid from Feb '66. And yes, this is confusing. At least for me.

Is this one tempting, Doctor?
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C974830

delta · 3 Dec 2019, 22:06 (Ref:3944635)

Sorry Gerard Robert is not keen on a E Type . I did like the noise coming from the Cobra that Will posted . Yes could have some of that .