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Old 21 Jan 2021, 10:23 (Ref:4030417)   #1751
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JP is a great business man - he knows how to put a deal together. Im sure he will have been working on new ways to entertain his commercial partners since March 2020. While hospitality in a trackside marquee might not be possible, there is a lot of alternative ways - Zoom Q&A sessions between races, goodie packs sent out ahead of the race weekend - heck they could even get food delivered to 'guests', webcam in the garages, etc, etc. Along with other appearances outside of the race weekends - like HARDs experience days.
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 11:45 (Ref:4030425)   #1752
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 12:32 (Ref:4030432)   #1753
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Has there been any announcement about BMW stepping down? Also, has BMW really supported WSR financially?
https://twitter.com/BMWUKMotorsport

Based on BMW UK Motorsport twitter I don't get the impression they have left WSR.
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 13:27 (Ref:4030442)   #1754
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Based on BMW UK Motorsport twitter I don't get the impression they have left WSR.

That is a good sign. Let’s hope for WSR’s sake BMW stick with supporting them
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 14:48 (Ref:4030452)   #1755
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Seems a strong BTCC content there. I assume their involvement would've ended by 31 December 2020 so I hope this shows that BMW is still onboard.
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 14:58 (Ref:4030455)   #1756
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Seems a strong BTCC content there. I assume their involvement would've ended by 31 December 2020 so I hope this shows that BMW is still onboard.
IMO it is strange if they still promote BTCC without involvement in 2021.
Of course it is possible they have decreased their involvement.
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 15:08 (Ref:4030456)   #1757
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That is a good sign. Let’s hope for WSR’s sake BMW stick with supporting them
Let's hope even more for Colin Turkington's sake. He has already been kicked out of WSR twice because of backers pulling out.
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 18:04 (Ref:4030489)   #1758
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My fingers are crossed, webstuff on the link a few posts back looks promising in my eyes.

Also remember WSR is trousering the Morgan's money for the 3 Series they're building, so that will help I'm sure.
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 19:13 (Ref:4030511)   #1759
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My fingers are crossed, webstuff on the link a few posts back looks promising in my eyes.

Also remember WSR is trousering the Morgan's money for the 3 Series they're building, so that will help I'm sure.
Prices for cars are fixed doubt there is much in it
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 19:54 (Ref:4030515)   #1760
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Prices for cars are fixed doubt there is much in it
Perhaps in theory.
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 20:21 (Ref:4030520)   #1761
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Who fixes the prices, and what are they?
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 20:40 (Ref:4030523)   #1762
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I really don’t think Plato will be back and the year off will make it doubly hard.

Sponsors: how did last year go, was the car at the front. Erm...
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 20:54 (Ref:4030524)   #1763
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About the same as his final year with BMR/Subaru.

I don't see his year off as that much of an issue to potential sponsors. It might be more of a problem if he was a newbie with only a year or two behind him.
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Old 21 Jan 2021, 21:35 (Ref:4030531)   #1764
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If it was an unknown going to try for money then they’d struggle, platos a household name so I don’t see it being as much of an issue for him
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Old 22 Jan 2021, 08:58 (Ref:4030574)   #1765
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I really don’t think Plato will be back and the year off will make it doubly hard.

Sponsors: how did last year go, was the car at the front. Erm...
He'll emphasise that last time the car was in his hands, at Brands in 2019, it won.

I'm sure he'll be back, sooner than you think.
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Old 22 Jan 2021, 10:00 (Ref:4030583)   #1766
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I really don’t think Plato will be back and the year off will make it doubly hard.

Sponsors: how did last year go, was the car at the front. Erm...
I don't think any sponsors involved in BTCC know so little about it that they would have expected the car to be at the front with the drivers in it.

The last time a top drawer driver was in it it won after all.
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Old 22 Jan 2021, 10:02 (Ref:4030584)   #1767
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Plato confirmed at PMR for 2021 as expected.
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Old 22 Jan 2021, 10:03 (Ref:4030585)   #1768
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Plato confirmed at PMR for 2021.

https://www.btcc.net/2021/01/22/pmr-...lato-for-2021/
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Old 22 Jan 2021, 10:22 (Ref:4030587)   #1769
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Not really a Plato fan but quite pleased with that because I'd started to get a little nagging doubt that he (and PMR) wouldn't be on the grid. Not sure why just had a bad feeling..........anyway, he is going to be there and after that 100th win

Isn't there some disagreement on how many wins he currently has? 97 or 98 or something like that...
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Old 22 Jan 2021, 10:26 (Ref:4030589)   #1770
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Entirely unsurprising except a few here wre still questioning if he would be back or not. He said himself early in 2020 that he and PMR had a deal for 2021. Even before Jake Hill had resigned with MB.

There's a new Astra model launching later this year which is more than a face-lift. So I think he may carry on further into the new hybrid era.

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Old 22 Jan 2021, 10:46 (Ref:4030593)   #1771
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Isn't there some disagreement on how many wins he currently has? 97 or 98 or something like that...
Finished 1st in 97 races*, collected points for 1st in 98 races.
Brands 2001, Anthony Reid won the race but the MG wasn't eligible to score points.

I think most reliable sources don't count that as a win, which puts him on 97.
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Old 22 Jan 2021, 10:52 (Ref:4030596)   #1772
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Finished 1st in 97 races*, collected points for 1st in 98 races.
Brands 2001, Anthony Reid won the race but the MG wasn't eligible to score points.

I think most reliable sources don't count that as a win, which puts him on 97.

Plato finished 3rd that race behind Reid and Simon Graves in the production honda

He also finished 2nd at Croft behind Roger Moen Peugeot

But scored maximum points
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Old 22 Jan 2021, 10:55 (Ref:4030597)   #1773
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I'd take the Plato news with a pinch of salt for now. With the BTCC still operating on the unlikely assumption that they'll have full crowds from the first round in May, if/when that turns out not to be the case this entry is very much in the same position as it was last year.
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Old 22 Jan 2021, 10:56 (Ref:4030598)   #1774
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Entirely unsurprising except a few here wre still questioning if he would be back or not. He said himself early in 2020 that he and PMR had a deal for 2021. Even before Jake Hill had resigned with MB.

There's a new Astra model launching later this year which is more than a face-lift. So I think he may carry on further into the new hybrid era.
He did say that, as did the team. But nothing is a given, at this moment in time in particular
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Old 22 Jan 2021, 10:58 (Ref:4030599)   #1775
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Plato finished 3rd that race behind Reid and Simon Graves in the production honda

He also finished 2nd at Croft behind Roger Moen Peugeot

But scored maximum points
Overall wins tends to exclude the Production Cars given they had a lap headstart and were basically a ‘race within a race’ - ie, they werent racing in the same class for the same championship
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