The "Good Old Days" were they?

[jewby]

Originally Posted by Conrod Kieron

Bit of useless information, the owner of that car was Kim Ledger of Rotomotion fame, Heath Ledgers old man. It wouldn't surprise me if the thing is still sitting up at Rotomotions in Midland.

Falcadore mentioned a 250 6 pot Anglia, i'm not sure if this was a common combo back then, but one raced in SS at Wanneroo back in the SS heydays.

There was also a mid engined partial space framed MK1 Capri V8 run by John Glasson in those days, I never saw a V8 Cortina SS at Wanneroo, this is circa 77 onwards though. Just wondered if pre Capri, Glasson had the Corty V8?

Was Edmonsons Alfa the precursor to the succesful line of Ricciardello Alfetta GTV's? IIRC, Basil was running a Charger SS driven by Brian Smith in the late 70's which he apparently bought from the eastern states, I believe he still has the original racing wheels, he sold the car though.

There was also the Palazzo XA Falcon coupe SS from this era, Paul Palazzo was good friends with Basil Ricciardello.
They retired it in the mid 80's and it just sat there in the workshop under covers, finally sold to a young bloke who repainted it red, but only ran it a few times.

I vaguely recall a dark brown car entered by GoGear, possibly pre Rotomotion Abarth and for some reason a V8 Marina fits the bill? I could be dreaming though

From the mid 80's, I also recall a black full space frame XD SS, I don't think it every raced but it certainly had all the right ingredients. Anyone have any further info on XD sports sedans?

Just to follow up on this old post...sorry only just joined 10 tenths!

Haven't read all the posts following on from this but..

Dick Ward's Arbath is running again in historics in original (or close to) livery. The car originally ran the Abarth engine in the early 70s at Wanneroo, before being converted to Corolla by John Hagarty in 1978. Later, Kim Ledger fitted the rotary engine. It was virtually written off in 1984 just when Ward was debuting his first RX7, however after 20 years it has now been restored and is being raced again. The car was always housed at Go Gear during this time, never at Ledgers.

The Ford 6cyl engined Anglia was driven in the mid 70s by Bruce Peacock. The car was white and blue number 85. It was later sold to Jow Riccardo who campaigned it in the late 70s. History of the car beyond that is unknown.

The V8 Cortina was driven by Glen Nichol. He was a good friend of Rod Housego who was racing Formula cars at the time, having previously raced a Series Production Charger. The Cortina races in 1975 and appeared only a few times with Nicol driving it.

Glasson ran a white and blue Rambler V8 Engined Ford Escort in the mid 1970s. This car was written off in a multi car accident and was then replaced by a yellow Ford Capri. Glasson still runs a V8 Toyota Supra at Wanneroo and along with Gordon Mitchell is the only driver still racing (albeit only occasionally!) from the Caversham days.

I am pretty sure Brian Smith's Charger was the ex Diffen car. It was eventually sold to Craig Marsland who ran it for a time. Marsland also owned the ex McCormack/Edmonson Charger but did not run it extensively.

Paul Palazzo (and Paul Kelly) ran an XR Falcon in the early to mid 70s, then built the XC Falcon. They had retired the car by the early 80s.

Gordon Mitchell ran his V8 Morris Marina in Go Gear colours for a time in the mid 70s. Many cars carried Go Gear sponsorship during this era, including John Hurney's ex Seldon Welsor Clubman and the Jones EH Holden.

I sort of remember the XD with the space frame chassis, but can't remember who ran it. Sorry!

Hope this helps!

[Aarrgh8]

Hi Jewby.

Nice to see this thread revived after one year - and a month. I'm still here and I'm sure most of the others are too.

I promise not to correct any spelling or grammatical errors.

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

Workin on that, I have a device called a slide copier that you connect to your 35mil fil-um camera, whack a slide in, focus, point at sun, and click. When you get prints back you can scan em ....load to hard drive....then upload to 10/10ths...NOT anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I must try a digital body on this device..if I can adapt it...cut out the middle man!

Ummm...I recently saw a demo of a modern photoscanner capable of doing slides...I now know what I need to do!!

Good to see this fred revived...there are a bunch of stories still to be told (I'm hopeing)

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by jewby

Just to follow up on this old post...sorry only just joined 10 tenths!

Gordon Mitchell ran his V8 Morris Marina in Go Gear colours for a time in the mid 70s.

Hope this helps!

Welcome Jewby...great first post!! I heard that Jim Smith was involved at one stage with both the Camel Rover and a V8 Marina....these were both essentially promotional cars brought out here to fly the flag for BLMC Aust.

I think the story is that Jim "encouraged" BLMC to bring the cars out to let him race them...then he picked them up for a pittance. Could that Marina have passed to Gordon or did he build the thing himself??

[Nivola]

the xd was a guy buy the name of Gibbs and I think that got sold to one of the eastwoods??????

The Bruce peacock anglia was up for sale as a wreack but didnot have its log book so it was resigned to our history memory banks I feel.

[jewby]

Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

Welcome Jewby...great first post!! I heard that Jim Smith was involved at one stage with both the Camel Rover and a V8 Marina....these were both essentially promotional cars brought out here to fly the flag for BLMC Aust.

I think the story is that Jim "encouraged" BLMC to bring the cars out to let him race them...then he picked them up for a pittance. Could that Marina have passed to Gordon or did he build the thing himself??

Thanks for the welcome 275 GTB-4. Gordon's Marina was one which was originally bought out by BL as a rally car. I can ask Gordon what its complete history was however he is in the USA at the moment so it will need to wait!

Earlier in the thread someone mentioned the ex Foley GTA Alfa Romeo. This car was driven by Gordon Stephenson in 1973, before Max Fletcher drove the car. It had the original ex Foley V8 engine until 1980 when Mitchell's turbo Rover V8 was transplanted from his Marina into the Alfa. The car remained in this configuration until 1984 when it was moderately damaged in practice accident and never raced in WA again. The car is currently being restored in the eastern states.

Your mention of 'Rover the Wonder Camel' prompted me to search though some of my old pictures! I have a wonderful picture of Peter Brock leaning into the engine bay of this car to check it out taken on the Saturday of the 1973 ATCC round at Wanneroo. This car looked awesome. It is a pity it never really went as well as it looked!

[jewby]

Originally Posted by deeks6

Moffat's was Chassis 1001 rebuilt in fact, according to:

http://www.geocities.com/monzaman_gt/home.html

wonder what did happen to this car...did win the title did'nt he?

Moffat's Monza was an IMSA car built by Horst Kwech and Lee Dykstra, and has returned to the USA where IMSA cars are worth a bomb and are highly collectable.

[old wise one]

The Bob Homewood Escort was built and is still owned By Bob Homewood in Pukekohe,it has /was never driven by any one else,and is as it is shown in the photo,the car you are talking about must have been another car
The engine fitted in this car in the photo ,was a 1850 cc 416b headed Lotus twin Cam,with Lucas Fuel injection ,which devolped just over 200 bhp on the Dyno,car uses a four speed ford based gearbox which has been changed to use Hewland gears to change the ratios in this form it beat both the Alfetta Bay Park,and the Addis Charger at Pukekohe to win on both ocassions,I have videos to prove it ,also it was I believe the first car of any class to go under 40 seconds at Taupo in those days,Like most people ,finances dictated the amount of racing it did ,it was always run on a vary limited budget
The car now boasts a 2.1 litre fuel injected Alloy BDA ,285 bhp @9000,it is nearly ready to go again and it is possible that if the chance arises it will run again in some Historic meetings or displays.The car only ever raced twice in this form(BDA),it did practice for a Bay Park meeting ,where it returned a quicker time than the Wills RX8 Chev which was the fastest car next day and was sidelined race day with a spark box failure ,a replacement unit having to come from the Uk and being fitted in the following weeks,it then ran at the last meeting on the Club short Circuit at Pukekohe returning a Lap time of 30.4 secs which once again to my knowledge is the quickest any one has ever gone there,
Bob Homewood

[old wise one]

Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

Steve,
I found it.The Algie Anglia
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~homewood/BOB4.JPG

Sorry Folks,
This should have gone with the above post

[kmsport]

I find it strange that in all these pages mainly concentrated on Sports Sedans discussion there is NO mention of K and A Engineering. They designed and built THE fastest Sports Sedans in the country. Including the current fastest...the Ricciardello Alfa.

[Camaroz]

Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

Welcome Jewby...great first post!! I heard that Jim Smith was involved at one stage with both the Camel Rover and a V8 Marina....these were both essentially promotional cars brought out here to fly the flag for BLMC Aust.

I think the story is that Jim "encouraged" BLMC to bring the cars out to let him race them...then he picked them up for a pittance. Could that Marina have passed to Gordon or did he build the thing himself??

The 'Marina's (Watt, Delforce - were there any others?) were, in basic terms, BMLC Promo cars as 'BL' were interested is seeing the vehicle actually "performing". Any current half good car builder/racer had a shot at getting bits (whole cars?) supplied. Not to stressing, they wern't selling

A School mate of mine got one of these things (a TC - was that twin-carb), and I'm going back to the days when they were just released, and as soon as I saw the thing had 'lever shocks' the same as my Morris Major II, (1962 model), that was it. The Marina was a 'puss pile' built by accountants.

[Camaroz]

Originally Posted by jewby

Moffat's Monza was an IMSA car built by Horst Kwech and Lee Dykstra, and has returned to the USA where IMSA cars are worth a bomb and are highly collectable.

Yes Jewby, Moffs Monza is now back in the US owned by Steve Sorenson (in SoCal) and being restoted in the livey of Sandown, July 4th 1976. The Monza is credited with the ASSC in 1976 as that is the car Moffat gained the most Champ points, the Capri being used only when CAMS were 'banning' the car.

For the record, the Moffat Monza was DeKon 1005, 1001 was badly damaged at it's first race and was rebuilt and was then raced in Canada!

This quote from Brad Carter...

i just found out my father mo carter owned dekon #1001. he ran the car for maybe half a season and then sold it. he never told me too much as i was young at the time, but he did tell me that the monza was a scary fast car. i guess the original owner wrecked it, my dad crashed in it, not too bad, and the subsequent owner died in it. that's about all i know

There is still one genuine IMSA Monza in Australia as well as the ex-Red Dawson/Roberts-Briggs/Griffen/Barnes example!

[Nivola]

kmsport I like that someone has some respect for a great company and for the riccardello family aswell.

Remember the days of the alfetta bashes at wannaroo. Smithy vs Wardy then the arival of the new beast and tony flogin the hell out of everyone.

tony's new record at home 54.9563 which was slow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Needs another two seconds and then it matches the formula 5000s!

[CorV8tor]

Yep Twas the day bfore the big win and ............

The story never ends. So went the Can-Am cars.

I am looking for information about Frank Gardner's last ride as well as Allen Crice with the incredible Corvair. Not really a Sedan Dan but waht a ride to end all rides.

I am in Canada gus and I need information about this car as I am in the prosess of building ( my idea ) of that particulare car. Tube frame, mid engine, 500-600 RWHP. 8 stacke manifold, 18" X 13" Die rr erims for starts.

If any one can get one of these guys to contact me about this car with any detaisl at all or photos, knows a mechanic that worked on it, knows where this car is???


I really am going round the bend as I am assuming a lot.

If any one has an old rule book consering this car's putinate clasification or better yet why this car got in to sedan racing the way it was .... HMMMMMM Lets start from the begining .... yes there was a corvair body involved but WAIT A MINUTE THERE... a F 5000 under it Turns my crank.

I had started building mine begfore I discovered this Auzy built racer/street sedan .... you guys are one wonderful bunch ofimmaginary builder fairies or somthing, God bless you all and especially for getting this Corvair into the race.

John Haney, practicing Auzy

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by CorV8tor

Yep Twas the day bfore the big win and ............

The story never ends. So went the Can-Am cars.

I am looking for information about Frank Gardner's last ride as well as Allen Crice with the incredible Corvair. Not really a Sedan Dan but waht a ride to end all rides.

I am in Canada gus and I need information about this car as I am in the prosess of building ( my idea ) of that particulare car. Tube frame, mid engine, 500-600 RWHP. 8 stacke manifold, 18" X 13" Die rr erims for starts.

If any one can get one of these guys to contact me about this car with any detaisl at all or photos, knows a mechanic that worked on it, knows where this car is???


I really am going round the bend as I am assuming a lot.

If any one has an old rule book consering this car's putinate clasification or better yet why this car got in to sedan racing the way it was .... HMMMMMM Lets start from the begining .... yes there was a corvair body involved but WAIT A MINUTE THERE... a F 5000 under it Turns my crank.

I had started building mine begfore I discovered this Auzy built racer/street sedan .... you guys are one wonderful bunch ofimmaginary builder fairies or somthing, God bless you all and especially for getting this Corvair into the race.

John Haney, practicing Auzy

Welcome John...do a search on corvair and you may get some more info from a Sports Sedans thread...Cheers, Mick

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