[BTCC] Rounds 1,2,3 Brands Hatch Indy 2017

[Matt K]

What a mess! Everyone went crazy, hopefully we will finally have a proper start

[BillWiskins]

Originally Posted by slummingangel

Didn't someone else lose a wheel in the first race? or was that not wheelnut related?

Yes, Dave Newsham lost a left rear I think. Smith says it was the same TOCA mandated part that failed.

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

It's a spec part too. Its bad when spec parts fail.

Neal should've lifted off. "I couldn't lift" is a bad excuse. Yes you can.

Agreed on all points!

[skells22]

take 3 coming up

[thlbtcc]

Ooof, thought Collard might have nabbed that. Entertaining once things got going. It's so tight in the mid pack, causes issues at a smaller track but expect it to be calmer once everyone has got used to things and the season progresses.

Someone buy some Strepsils for Ingram!

[touringlegend]

Austin excluded from race 2 for passing under a yellow and contact with Jordan. I was surprised the pass under yellow wasn't picked up by commentary.

It now means Chilton is on pole for race 3

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by touringlegend

Austin excluded from race 2 for passing under a yellow and contact with Jordan. I was surprised the pass under yellow wasn't picked up by commentary.

It now means Chilton is on pole for race 3

This confuses me because there was no yellows. I was thinking that at the time and they showed the onboard Austin, looking backwards. There was no yellow or green flags showing on the lap he did it. So unless they brought in the yellows whilst he was making the pass, I don't understand that one. Was certainly not visible during the replay.

[Akrapovic]

They just showed it on TV. Definitely a yellow, I'm completely wrong.

[BillWiskins]

Yeah, it was quite clear from the angle they just showed. Rob Austin's floating head was very apologetic, though.

A win for the new Astra would be pretty good.

[porsche962fan]

I can almost hear the other teams cry for BMW boost reduction

[CarsCarsCars]

I think Turks would have been through if they weren't teammates.

[FFSM]

I can already hear Plato banging on Alan Gow's door...

[luckn002]

The highlight of that race has to be Chilton banging his head at the end of the race when he tried to get on the roof!

Overall PMR Vauxhall did much better than I expected, Subarus seemed to be caught up in a lot of incidents and the MGs were nowhere.

Impressed with Epps as well.

[skells22]

plus there was something very rare in race 3, a lack of SC

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by Matt K

As expected, Subaru struggled. Looking from Turkington's point of view it's satisfying but from the championship's point of view it's concerning. I wonder where is the problem?

The Subaru team have had to place weight in the dash-board area to counteract the advantage they get from the low CoG of their drive-train. It would appear that this has upset the whole balance of the car.

[850Estate]

Interesting comments from Paul O'Neill about BMR at the end there. Wonder what he is referring too...it seemed to go much deeper than just pace.

[thetool]

Originally Posted by luckn002

Overall PMR Vauxhall did much better than expected

Did they? This isn't the BTCC of a few decades ago where it was very difficult for new teams/cars to come in. In fact, not achieving instant success is more surprising. Pretty much every NGTC car built after the first year has been successful within two months of running.

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by 850Estate

Interesting comments from Paul O'Neill about BMR at the end there. Wonder what he is referring too...it seemed to go much deeper than just pace.

Could you expand? I stopped my recording at the end of the driver interviews and went out.

[luckn002]

Originally Posted by thetool

Did they? This isn't the BTCC of a few decades ago where it was very difficult for new teams/cars to come in. In fact, not achieving instant success is more surprising. Pretty much every NGTC car built after the first year has been successful within two months of running.

...better than I expected anyway, I know some others also thought PMR would struggle against this years grid quality and they did better than BMR Subaru did last year.

[GT6]

i had a great time at Brands, racing was good and plenty of cars proved they will be in contention this year, only real disappointment was the the subaru's well off the pace and seemed to be the cause of too many incidents, lets hope they get it together next time

[BertMk2]

Just got back from Brands - great days racing! There was some real 'elbows out' racing but most of what I saw was the right side of acceptability (for the BTCC ;-) ). The BMWs looked good, as did the Hondas (all of them), Jackson looked to be on it and is clearly the class of the Motorbase drivers. Disappointed with Newsham and Lloyd today though - didn't see the expected pace from either of them.

[S griffin]

Wow! Where to begin?

Seems Tingram is like Flash playing the long game and can see both in the title race.

J.Smith did well to get pole and was holding his own in the race before that part failed which was a shame. Still at least Goff got three good results and should win at least once this season.

I'll post more later

[antnee]

Didn't the HARD cars have some issues with the wheel nuts in pre-season testing also?

I wonder if the nuts had been finely specced for the old tyres, but with the new wider tyres they are just loading up a touch more and causing the failures?

[Sodemo]

What was Plato alluding to with regard to the "changes made to the car on Wednesday"? He said they were still trying to work out the car after this...?

[BLiTZ]

Perhaps TOCA have found a container big enough to hold Jason's ego and bolted that under the dashboard

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by Matt K

Thanks for info, is it possible for those living outside the UK?

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

The ITV site is geographically restricted, so will only let you watch if your IP address appears to be in the UK. 😉

The live stream is geoblocked, but the on demand races are usually unrestricted.