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Old 11 Sep 2013, 09:25 (Ref:3301972)   #1276
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Yes, those Michelins look good. However, the current cost of converting F1 cars to run on those tyres would be enormous. It shouldn't be an enormous amount of money to switch to those tyres, but unfortunately that's the way things have gone in F1 since 2009, and before. I'm sure that if F1 had got the budget cap sorted out, F1 cars would now be running on those Michelin tyres. Too bad.
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Old 11 Sep 2013, 12:46 (Ref:3302069)   #1277
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Yes, those Michelins look good. However, the current cost of converting F1 cars to run on those tyres would be enormous. It shouldn't be an enormous amount of money to switch to those tyres, but unfortunately that's the way things have gone in F1 since 2009, and before. I'm sure that if F1 had got the budget cap sorted out, F1 cars would now be running on those Michelin tyres. Too bad.
Too bad indeed, maybe someday...
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Old 11 Sep 2013, 14:11 (Ref:3302128)   #1278
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Formula E will run the same tyre in wet and dry conditions.
What, inters wet and dry?
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It's that new tyre they have developed...
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Old 11 Sep 2013, 22:52 (Ref:3302457)   #1280
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Yes, those Michelins look good. However, the current cost of converting F1 cars to run on those tyres would be enormous. It shouldn't be an enormous amount of money to switch to those tyres, but unfortunately that's the way things have gone in F1 since 2009, and before. I'm sure that if F1 had got the budget cap sorted out, F1 cars would now be running on those Michelin tyres. Too bad.
The F1 guys would have to work out how to build a suspension again.

Remember the clip of the RBR car launching itself off a curb, and the suspension movement, when it launched and when it landed? Zero!
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Old 11 Sep 2013, 22:56 (Ref:3302459)   #1281
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The F1 guys would have to work out how to build a suspension again.

Remember the clip of the RBR car launching itself off a curb, and the suspension movement, when it launched and when it landed? Zero!
It's not just the suspension but the effect a larger rimmed wheel will have on the aero.
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Old 12 Sep 2013, 05:36 (Ref:3302531)   #1283
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Formula E will run the same tyre in wet and dry conditions.
Well when you're only moving at walking pace it doesn't matter does it
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Old 12 Sep 2013, 07:21 (Ref:3302557)   #1284
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Well when you're only moving at walking pace it doesn't matter does it
Compared to F1, yes, but it's more of a jogging pace than a walk. Not sure of anyone who can walk at speeds over 220Km/h??

Good for road tyre development I guess. 18inch and the same tyre for wet and dry. Exactly the same as what I have on my Mini.
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Old 23 Sep 2013, 11:38 (Ref:3308132)   #1285
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Old 4 Oct 2013, 19:52 (Ref:3312888)   #1286
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Pirelli hope for a 5 year contract.

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Pirelli hope for a 5 year contract.

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Can't say it's a good thing.

Where I work, contracts are never more than 2 years, to assure developments.
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Can't say it's a good thing.

Where I work, contracts are never more than 2 years, to assure developments.
It's entirely possible that Pirelli also have two year contracts with their suppliers.

Nice to see that Michelin are to debut their wet/dry treaded tyre in Formula E. Possibly the best place for them at this time. Hell! We've only just gotten used to having slick tyres again!
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It's entirely possible that Pirelli also have two year contracts with their suppliers.

Nice to see that Michelin are to debut their wet/dry treaded tyre in Formula E. Possibly the best place for them at this time. Hell! We've only just gotten used to having slick tyres again!
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Oh well back to exploding tyres -

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Well, to be fair the lock-up that caused the puncture was an ugly one. But from a safety point of view, a tyre shouldn't explode so easily.

Next is Suzuka, if I were a driver I wouldn't want to go past the 130R turn with these tyres for 20 consecutive laps, that's for sure.
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Next is Suzuka, if I were a driver I wouldn't want to go past the 130R turn with these tyres for 20 consecutive laps, that's for sure.
Chances are that the tyres will be fine and there will even be talk of one stop strategies. Someone will most likely complain.

Pirelli really ought to take just the hard compound tyre to the remaining races, so that we need only then moan about how boring F1 races are becoming.
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Chances are that the tyres will be fine and there will even be talk of one stop strategies. Someone will most likely complain.

Pirelli really ought to take just the hard compound tyre to the remaining races, so that we need only then moan about how boring F1 races are becoming.
And so it continues....
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Hopefully the boys at FIAT procurement cross Pirelli off the preferred supplier list for their many brands... That would indeed have an impact!

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