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Old 24 Jun 2018, 10:38 (Ref:3832817)   #51
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I'm assuming this is the Tim Harvey, which might give us a bit more clarity on things.

Ultimately, like them or loathe them (and I think we're all agreed that we like watching Sutton) there is no way that him and Jason should be battling for 20th+ position. The big question mark today will be reliability. Three races in a short space of time.

Ah, thaks for sharing, I just came here because they've basically said the exact same thing during the ITV coverage.

Each team has agreed to it, it's within the one change per year rule for 2018, new cooling package on the cars and the WSR BMWs have success weight.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 10:40 (Ref:3832818)   #52
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could be ironic that Honda engine got another boost cut and this time not due TD success but Eurotech one ??
Nope.

The only changes have been to the Subaru's and Jelley's BMW.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 10:54 (Ref:3832819)   #53
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ITV are loving this Subaru revival
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 11:03 (Ref:3832820)   #54
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I really don't mind the Subarus are doing well again, but I really don't like Jason just lying.

Saturday Jason: I wasn't motivated and wasn't trying my best
Sunday Louise: By your own admission you weren't motivated
Sunday Jason: Let's not take things out of context.

Backtracking on comments because he shouldn't have said them. I really don't mind Subaru, but that's why Jason is seen as such a tool by so many.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 11:08 (Ref:3832821)   #55
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We're halfway through the season and no-one's adequately answered the most burning question: what exactly has Sam Smelt?
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 11:12 (Ref:3832822)   #56
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Cook sandwiched between Austin & Jelley, very similar to Oulton
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 11:20 (Ref:3832823)   #57
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We're halfway through the season and no-one's adequately answered the most burning question: what exactly has Sam Smelt?

For the most part, everyone else's exhaust fumes.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 11:41 (Ref:3832827)   #58
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BMR 1-2 finish.

Great drive from Ingram to get that Avensis on the podium again.

Excluding retirements, that was Tordoff's fifth 4th place finish in a row!

Good 8th place for Lloyd too, Morgan having yet another awful Croft.

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Old 24 Jun 2018, 12:11 (Ref:3832831)   #59
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I really don't mind the Subarus are doing well again, but I really don't like Jason just lying.

Saturday Jason: I wasn't motivated and wasn't trying my best
Sunday Louise: By your own admission you weren't motivated
Sunday Jason: Let's not take things out of context.

Backtracking on comments because he shouldn't have said them. I really don't mind Subaru, but that's why Jason is seen as such a tool by so many.
He said straight after the out of context that he as 2/10ths off because he wasn't motivated which was exactly what he said yesterday.

The out of context referred to the reasons why he was/was not trying.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 12:18 (Ref:3832834)   #60
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He said straight after the out of context that he as 2/10ths off because he wasn't motivated which was exactly what he said yesterday.

The out of context referred to the reasons why he was/was not trying.
After implying what Louise said was wrong. It's like he digs a hole through his usual BS and then tries to climb out.

Same again in that post-race interview. He said they're still miles off the straight line pace of every else. That is 100% absolute BS. He was able to pull alongside the BMW. He actually claimed he couldn't pass because of a power deficit. So if he's not beating everyone else, it must be the car.

He's such a bad liar and so manipulative. Urgh. I was sitting this morning thinking it was great that Subaru are back in the fight, but he really does do his best to make out he's up against it. You could latch a caravan to every other car and he'd say it helps them with balance.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 13:55 (Ref:3832845)   #61
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Tom Ingram really doesn't get enough credit. Fantastic start and pass.

Josh Cook was surely a brake failure. Terrifying off.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 13:57 (Ref:3832846)   #62
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Ugh, Sutton just breezed past Ingram. :/
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 13:59 (Ref:3832847)   #63
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Could do with a Safety Car to clear up the fact there are tyre stacks spread around at a few corners.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 14:11 (Ref:3832850)   #64
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boost cut for BMR needed, heaviest ballast and still in a different league
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 14:18 (Ref:3832854)   #65
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Plato finished P14 after a drive through on near full ballast...

I like Sutton but that race was too easy for him. Yet more controversy around BMR...

Ingram is a star.

No surprises as to who came 4th!

HARD having a HARD time yet again, Cook very lucky, and a great show by Austin.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 14:25 (Ref:3832857)   #66
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Never seem to be able to find a balance with BMR. Either struggling badly or dominating. It's a little ridiculous.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 14:26 (Ref:3832858)   #67
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Tingram also making remark about the Subaru...
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Never seem to be able to find a balance with BMR. Either struggling badly or dominating. It's a little ridiculous.
Hate to say it, but I think I'd be enjoying this season far more if BMR weren't involved.

Really hope this is sorted over the summer break. Maybe get an outside driver to drive the Subaru and another car back to back.
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Hate to say it, but I think I'd be enjoying this season far more if BMR weren't involved.

Really hope this is sorted over the summer break. Maybe get an outside driver to drive the Subaru and another car back to back.
Agreed. Everything has to revolve around them. I feel like if the BMR Microwave undercooked a ready meal, we'd hear about how unfair it is.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 15:10 (Ref:3832871)   #71
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Sorry to say so but BTCC is such a mess with these boost adjustments, performance weights, additional weights for RWD, and so on and so forth. It seems such a manipulated series right now that it's almost difficult to follow who's where. Too much of manipulation in the series.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 16:21 (Ref:3832880)   #72
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the series would be so much better without BMR controversy
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 16:34 (Ref:3832884)   #73
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Sorry to say so but BTCC is such a mess with these boost adjustments, performance weights, additional weights for RWD, and so on and so forth. It seems such a manipulated series right now that it's almost difficult to follow who's where. Too much of manipulation in the series.
Weight manipulation has been around from the early super touring years, maybe earlier. Boost adjustment since the onset of ngtc. None of it is new. In fact up until this season boost adjustments have been a lot more frequent.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 16:58 (Ref:3832889)   #74
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👏🏼 Lloyd & BTC 👏🏼

Nice to have a race without the Subarus being the main topic...

0 points for Goff, from 2nd in the championship 8 hours ago
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Congrats to Lloyd and BTC Norlin


Sutton maybe a strike for push to pass
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