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Old 2 Aug 2012, 07:49 (Ref:3115095)   #1
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Tomas Enge suspended from the sport .

Bloody disgrace this is !!! 18 months .............

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Old 2 Aug 2012, 08:31 (Ref:3115108)   #2
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Old 2 Aug 2012, 09:52 (Ref:3115140)   #3
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Especially if he is banned for taking cardiovasculair medicins instead of performance enhancing substances. Hopefully his appeal will be succesfull!
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Old 2 Aug 2012, 10:13 (Ref:3115156)   #4
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Especially if he is banned for taking cardiovasculair medicins instead of performance enhancing substances. Hopefully his appeal will be succesfull!
Yeah I think thats disgraceful if the medecine is for cardiovascular purposes and is not performance enhancing. Well at least he looks better out of this then last time...
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Old 2 Aug 2012, 15:28 (Ref:3115286)   #5
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Especially if he is banned for taking cardiovasculair medicins instead of performance enhancing substances. Hopefully his appeal will be succesfull!
There is something quite wrong here, if it was cause of a medicine, why such a long punishement, if in cycling even if as an example, in the Tour of France Miguel indurain was permitted the use of "Ventolin" for the Asthma, and here where doping is a few less relevant Enge is not permitted a Medicine.

Something is wrong here or someone is lying.
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Old 2 Aug 2012, 15:33 (Ref:3115288)   #6
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There is something quite wrong here, if it was cause of a medicine, why such a long punishement, if in cycling even if as an example, in the Tour of France Miguel indurain was permitted the use of "Ventolin" for the Asthma, and here where doping is a few less relevant Enge is not permitted a Medicine.

Something is wrong here or someone is lying.
Nah, Indurain was what - 20? - years ago? I think they have just tightened the screws in recent years.
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Old 2 Aug 2012, 15:40 (Ref:3115290)   #7
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Nah, Indurain was what - 20? - years ago? I think they have just tightened the screws in recent years.
Hey, anyway this is Motorsports, this is not cycling or athletism (Where doping has a huge relevance afecting the results, and why is so well pursued), i can't really understand what's going on here if he has a few sense of reason, maybe the quantities of the positive denies his reasons (Like contador), or the FIA is terribly wrong.
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Old 2 Aug 2012, 17:00 (Ref:3115313)   #8
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I thought he was caught with Tetrahydrocannabinol in his blood test ?!?!?!
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Old 2 Aug 2012, 18:07 (Ref:3115326)   #9
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Wow, Really cardiovascular aid...
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Old 2 Aug 2012, 18:12 (Ref:3115330)   #10
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Well , it does make you feel better !!!

Used for patients who suffer from loss of appetite , cancer , stress and lots more too .
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Old 2 Aug 2012, 18:34 (Ref:3115339)   #11
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Well , it does make you feel better !!!

Used for patients who suffer from loss of appetite , cancer , stress and lots more too .
And makes the Lambo 5 seconds x lap faster at rain, it has not been studied enough xD...

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Old 3 Aug 2012, 04:51 (Ref:3115471)   #12
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Old 3 Aug 2012, 06:30 (Ref:3115483)   #13
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Its ok for the alcoholics in motorsport to pedel their cars around the tracks though !!!
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Old 3 Aug 2012, 06:52 (Ref:3115487)   #14
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As long as they don't drink and drive . Raikkonen doesn't have any real issues.
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Its ok for the alcoholics in motorsport to pedel their cars around the tracks though !!!
Have there been drunk drivers racing!? (i'm honestly asking)

I know for a fact that FIA has a 0/00 limit for all participants of racing (I'm a marshall, so it goes for me too)
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Old 4 Aug 2012, 22:42 (Ref:3116144)   #16
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I think that's absolutely outrageous. I hope it's overturned.
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I think that's absolutely outrageous. I hope it's overturned.
Agreed. Particularly as there's no decent case for performance enhancement (which is the primary - at least, original - reasoning for drug-related restrictions within sport).

Can anyone honestly prove he's gained an advantage via use of this specific substance?
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Old 5 Aug 2012, 01:26 (Ref:3116174)   #18
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Have there been drunk drivers racing!? (i'm honestly asking)

I know for a fact that FIA has a 0/00 limit for all participants of racing (I'm a marshall, so it goes for me too)
Im pretty sure there has been a few had a session the night before , but Ive never heard of any being caught .
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I think that's absolutely outrageous. I hope it's overturned.
Me too ..... but there are people who feel that his ability will be impaired by it . I believe that could be the case if he has a smoke just before getting the car ..... but , it wares off quicker than booze does .

Its just the high and mighty flexing their muscles again .

Or possibliy its about bringing the sport into disrepute ? But its fine for the head of the Fia , then Max Mosley , getting his arse flaked by a pair of dykes in Nazi uniform ..... LMAO !!!

Wonder what would happen if there was a race in Holland , where it is legal , and someone got caught ..... he didnt break the law then , did he ???

Always an Enge fan , and always will be . This stinks .

Well , at least he has 18 months to completely enjoy himself without having to worry about the powers that be !!!
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Well , at least he has 18 months to completely enjoy himself without having to worry about the powers that be !!!
There could be an opening for him at Penske
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Im pretty sure there has been a few had a session the night before , but Ive never heard of any being caught .
As a race official, I can confirm that they can and ARE barred from racing, but usually this is at the club racer level, not international.

Even marshals can and are breathalysed at events, like Le Mans.

You probably won't get to hear about this when it happens, no-one goes out looking for negative publicity.
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As much as I am a fan of his on track, this is a second drug failure.

First apparently passive cannabis smoking (mmm, ok...)
Now a medicine that he had asked clearance for, not received but used it anyway

Drugs are bad - thems the rules
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Not ALL drugs are bad. But some get a better press than others...

I have no issue if you are being prescibed something for a medical condition, so long as it is acceptable to the authorities where you race.
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Have there been drunk drivers racing!? (i'm honestly asking)

I know for a fact that FIA has a 0/00 limit for all participants of racing (I'm a marshall, so it goes for me too)
Frenchman Jules Goux won 1913 Indy 500 race after drinking a entire bottle of champanhe along with his mechanic (at that time, driver and mechanic shared the car) EVERY TIME he stopped for refueling.

I remember that back in 60s some drivers used to go racing in Le Mans 24h after drinking as well. Maybe it's more common than we could ever inquire.

PS: Niki Lauda told he once drove under the effect of weed.
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I read a Le Mans story of how somebody lost his drive on the Friday (car written off in qually perhaps?) so went out on the town carousing til dawn; then got called up in the morning to replace another driver, raced with no sleep and a BIG hangover.... might have been Duncan Hamilton?
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