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Old 20 Dec 2018, 03:55 (Ref:3871561)   #31
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No actually half of those things would never happen because the rules are still 5500cc normally aspirated and 4000cc turbocharged.

The Ford and the Ferrari could be a lot faster. The Ford doesn't even really need to be unrestricted to, I don't think they've ever taken all the sandbags out. Plus that engine actually already ran at ~600hp in the Ford DP without too much in the way of reliability problems, 800hp in their Daytona demo run, and has done 1000hp on the dyno. The Aston Martin and the Porsche definitely can't. My impression is the Porsche is running practically unrestricted like the Z4 GT3.

Anyways the Ford is basically a 90s GT1 and those could do 3:35-3:40 then with what is ancient tire technology by today's standards.
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Old 20 Dec 2018, 07:58 (Ref:3871588)   #32
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Agree, V6 in ford gt is basically the same engine used in the ganassi riley dp pushing not less than 560hp. The only issue is that engine seems to be a bit low on torque compared to bmw and ferrari turbo engines.
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Old 20 Dec 2018, 23:59 (Ref:3871729)   #33
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No actually half of those things would never happen because the rules are still 5500cc normally aspirated and 4000cc turbocharged.

The Ford and the Ferrari could be a lot faster. The Ford doesn't even really need to be unrestricted to, I don't think they've ever taken all the sandbags out. Plus that engine actually already ran at ~600hp in the Ford DP without too much in the way of reliability problems, 800hp in their Daytona demo run, and has done 1000hp on the dyno. The Aston Martin and the Porsche definitely can't. My impression is the Porsche is running practically unrestricted like the Z4 GT3.

Anyways the Ford is basically a 90s GT1 and those could do 3:35-3:40 then with what is ancient tire technology by today's standards.
Unrestricted to me means the displacement and cylinder count limits are gone. Even if they are kept around, the Ferrari V8 in street form is already 100 hp more powerful than the Ford. take the boost and rpm limits away and I donít see a 3.5L V6 turbo being able to match 4.0L V8 turbos for power.


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Agree, V6 in ford gt is basically the same engine used in the ganassi riley dp pushing not less than 560hp. The only issue is that engine seems to be a bit low on torque compared to bmw and ferrari turbo engines.
It can make more power than it currently does, but in the end cylinder count and displacement matter. If both are turbo, A bigger engine with more cylinders will ultimately be more powerful.
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Old 21 Dec 2018, 08:43 (Ref:3871769)   #34
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Unrestricted to me means the displacement and cylinder count limits are gone. Even if they are kept around, the Ferrari V8 in street form is already 100 hp more powerful than the Ford. take the boost and rpm limits away and I donít see a 3.5L V6 turbo being able to match 4.0L V8 turbos for power.




It can make more power than it currently does, but in the end cylinder count and displacement matter. If both are turbo, A bigger engine with more cylinders will ultimately be more powerful.

actually pressure boost is what matters most


ferrari and mercedes f1 v6 1.6L turbo = >800hp
porsche v4 2L = about 600hp @ about 80kg/h

toyota eagle MK3 4L 2.1L = >700hp


examples of small displacement turbo engine with an insane power release due insane turbo pressure. Of coure these are expensive bespoke engines.
Like new vantage, ford gt has a not so high pressure boost, in the range of 1.4bar; 488 and M8 have higher pressures.


Anyway nothing wrong with that, ford v6 was revving up to almost 8000rpm in riley ganassi, it was designed to have a lower but flat torque release in mid-mid high rpm.
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