THE F1 COVID THREAD: Will GP be cancelled?

[bella]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

The only thing I could find regarding an extension to the lockdown was this. I won't be surprised if it is extended across the UK, three weeks always seemed too short. However, an initial 3 week period was probably easier to present to the general public.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52215421

Originally Posted by S griffin

That’s exactly what I’ve seen. The government are going to analyse the situation at the end of the week and then make a decision

neither of these are relevant to the point that i'm making. f1 shutdown is different to lockdown. my point relates to the compulsory annual closedown that has been moved to free up the rest of the year, and has now been extended.

[Greem]

Originally Posted by chunterer

I'm all for it! Whilst his views are at best an outlandish form of attention seeking, and at worst the warblings of a very damaged individual we have every reason to be a little sceptical about the governance of our lives and the world at large these days!!

Just this week he did a YouTube live broadcast that had 60+ thousand viewers, where he wibbled about the demonstrably invalid claims that 5G causes coronavirus and that the vaccine being developed for SARS-CoV-2 will contain nano-particle chips that will allow the powers-that-be to control everyone on the planet.

That's downright dangerous, not simply fantasy or even conspiracy.

Damaged possibly, but to turn your final statement on its' head, we have every reason to be sceptical about fanciful claims and demonstrable lies, too.

No F1 content I know but the current acceptance of stuff with no substance as fact boils my... y'know. It's cool to be ignorant, apparently, and it's cooler to decry provable theories and published science with random gibberish off the Internet.

[Aysedasi]

Yes.

But will the GP be cancelled?





And why should David Icke be tarred with the epithet 'loony' merely because he has a pet halibut? That's what I want to know!

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Yes.

But will the GP be cancelled?





And why should David Icke be tarred with the epithet 'loony' merely because he has a pet halibut? That's what I want to know!

I didn't know he had a pet Halibut. What's it called?

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Greem

It's cool to be ignorant, apparently, and it's cooler to decry provable theories and published science with random gibberish off the Internet.

Exactly. Such as why do people believe in a flat earth? All of their arguments are bad and can be disproved. But they like a feeling of "being in the know" and having one up on all of the rest of us "mindless sheep who are trapped by what we have been told" (they conveniently ignore they are also just repeating things they have seen on YouTube). I think narcissism is involved as well.

Richard

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I didn't know he had a pet Halibut. What's it called?

"For the"?

Richard

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I didn't know he had a pet Halibut. What's it called?

Not Brian, for sure!

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Not Brian, for sure!

Eric?

[S griffin]

Seems appropriate, there has always been something fishy about that Mr Icke

[Casper]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

I suspect somebody in full fireproofs with helmets on has better protection than some of the PPE that is been used at the moment.

That might be but the SD rules are the rules and no exceptions allowed away from the medical world so that idea will not fly.

[Casper]

Three weeks, Oz is SIX months to start with..

[billy bleach]

[QUOTE=chillibowl;3969352]David Ike or did you mean David Icke?


I think you know exactly who I meant .....

[Moneyseeker]

UK lockdown likely to be extended into at least May, which will be after Silverstone have to make their decision on the GP, so do they gamble and press ahead with commiting to the pre-race set up and costs in the hope that the lockdown is lifted for big public gatherings by the race?



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[midgetman]

I don't see how anyone with an ounce of sense can do that. I don't know if they can even apply for the MSUK permit to run the event. If MSUK decides to withhold permits for another month, that's it. Dead in the water.

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[Casper]

Originally Posted by Moneyseeker

UK lockdown likely to be extended into at least May, which will be after Silverstone have to make their decision on the GP, so do they gamble and press ahead with commiting to the pre-race set up and costs in the hope that the lockdown is lifted for big public gatherings by the race?



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How long does it take to develop and distribute a vaccine, work that out and get back to us because that is when normal public crowds will be allowed. No politician is going to risk his career by allowing any crowd gatherings before hand.

[S griffin]

Interesting podcast on the Autosport site with Jean Todt. Talks about how he feels going to Australia was right at the time, but lessons should be learned from it too. He also talks about how important the fans are and that they would prefer to have fans at the event, rather than be behind closed doors

[bella]

Originally Posted by midgetman

I don't see how anyone with an ounce of sense can do that. I don't know if they can even apply for the MSUK permit to run the event. If MSUK decides to withhold permits for another month, that's it. Dead in the water.

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i think msuk will do well to hold on for at least another month before making a decision about july. we don’t know what’s happening in a month, let alone three.

you make a good point though. wonder if they’d still have to pay the f1 fee if it was held behind closed doors?

[bella]

Originally Posted by Casper

How long does it take to develop and distribute a vaccine, work that out and get back to us because that is when normal public crowds will be allowed. No politician is going to risk his career by allowing any crowd gatherings before hand.

personal opinion is that they will be using antibody testing, social distancing and some ppe to reopen workplaces and restart the country - the economy will not survive the length of time needed to develop a vaccine and produce it in significant numbers.

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by Casper

How long does it take to develop and distribute a vaccine, work that out and get back to us because that is when normal public crowds will be allowed. No politician is going to risk his career by allowing any crowd gatherings before hand.

The absolute soonest a vaccine will be available-presuming the one at the most advanced clinical stage at the moment works-is the middle of 2021.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Casper

How long does it take to develop and distribute a vaccine, work that out and get back to us because that is when normal public crowds will be allowed. No politician is going to risk his career by allowing any crowd gatherings before hand.

There has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus. All 18 of them.....

[bella]

exactly. it'll be a major breakthrough if it happens.

[Adam43]

The 19 bit is the year it was discovered not a catalogue number.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Adam43

The 19 bit is the year it was discovered not a catalogue number.

True - there is a lot of misunderstanding (and lack of attention to detail) about how things are referred to.
The issue is not just here, it seems to be present in the majority of media sources and other agencies.

There have not been 18 previous strains, in fact there have been hundreds (if not thousands).
Two of theses strains have caused outbreaks of significant disease in the human population. SARS-Cov1 (2002-2004) and SARS-Cov2 (2019-ongoing).

Spreading false information helps no-one.

For clarity:

The virus strain is 'Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2'
A previous strain of the same virus caused the outbreak known as 'SARS' and are both part of the 'Severe acute respiratory syndrome-related coronavirus'

The current strain has been colloquially known as 'Coronavirus' as well as the designation '2019-nCoV'. It is this strain that causes the disease 'COrona Virus Disease 2019 - COVID-19'.

[bella]

his point still stands, though.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by bella

his point still stands, though.

It doesn't though and is not presented in an accurate way.

There has never been a vaccine developed for any of the hundreds of strains of Coronavirus, except for one.
A vaccine for SARS-Cov1 (the only other strain of Coronavirus that has caused a human outbreak) has been developed and is undergoing clinical trials under the identifier NCT00533741.

The key point is not that a vaccine will not be developed, but that it has taken about 16 years to develop.