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Old 23 May 2018, 11:47 (Ref:3824186)   #1996
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Old 11 Jun 2018, 06:01 (Ref:3828270)   #1997
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We ate in the same restaurant as the Rebs last night and I managed to snatch a few words with Bart while he was waiting to pay. He indicated that things were going well and they were very optimistic. They know they need Toyota to slip up, but with a fast and clear run, who knows...…?
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Old 11 Jun 2018, 07:38 (Ref:3828287)   #1998
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We ate in the same restaurant as the Rebs last night and I managed to snatch a few words with Bart while he was waiting to pay. He indicated that things were going well and they were very optimistic. They know they need Toyota to slip up, but with a fast and clear run, who knows...…?
Great to hear, and who knows, if you were to count on any manufacture to slip up, Toyota is to most likely one to do so. (comparing to Porsche and Audi)
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“We’re not allowed to be quicker than the Toyota,” Jani told Sportscar365. “Otherwise, we get a drive-through. It’s in the rules."
“As soon as we are too quick, we get a drive-through."

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/j...t-with-toyota/

Delightful tone indeed

RLM and some others are saying they might overtake Toyota on the first stint (before the pit stops hand the lead to Toyota as dictated by EoT), but I think they'll hold back because it'll be pointless risk + the above. They'll just have to wait behind if/when Toyotas explode somewhere along the line

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Old 11 Jun 2018, 14:04 (Ref:3828417)   #2000
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I know that it's from SC365, but if that's true, it's crap. That's not what the ACO needs right now.
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Old 11 Jun 2018, 14:24 (Ref:3828422)   #2001
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RLM was talking about this mandatory difference in pace during the Test Day coverage.
As a quite inexperienced viewer I'm wondering about how ACO will determine the "Toyota pace".
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Old 11 Jun 2018, 14:45 (Ref:3828426)   #2002
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“We’re not allowed to be quicker than the Toyota,” Jani told Sportscar365. “Otherwise, we get a drive-through. It’s in the rules."
“As soon as we are too quick, we get a drive-through."

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/j...t-with-toyota/

Delightful tone indeed

RLM and some others are saying they might overtake Toyota on the first stint (before the pit stops hand the lead to Toyota as dictated by EoT), but I think they'll hold back because it'll be pointless risk + the above. They'll just have to wait behind if/when Toyotas explode somewhere along the line
I hope the Toyotas break down on the side of the road just like last year. Screw them.
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Old 11 Jun 2018, 18:31 (Ref:3828475)   #2003
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Personally I am hoping for a last lap breakdown!
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Old 11 Jun 2018, 19:35 (Ref:3828488)   #2004
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I hope the Toyotas break down on the side of the road just like last year. Screw them.
Did Toyota write the rules, how is this their fault?
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Old 11 Jun 2018, 19:49 (Ref:3828492)   #2005
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I know that it's from SC365, but if that's true, it's crap. That's not what the ACO needs right now.
You have not been paying attention. Let me help.

The privateers get favorable EoT to get closer to Toyota.

I mean, if that's not clear by now I don't know what to tell you.
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Did Toyota write the rules, how is this their fault?
They hired Alonso and ACO wants an Alonso win on Sunday.

Rebellion is just there to make up the numbers.
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I’ve not noticed the drive through rule. Which one is it? I’d like to read the wording and check it’s a drive through not a stop go.
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Old 11 Jun 2018, 20:58 (Ref:3828507)   #2008
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Well, I think we may as well abandon the race now as all the experts are saying it's been fixed. Hell, why bother..... (Darn it, I'm sounding like Adam....).
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Old 11 Jun 2018, 21:11 (Ref:3828510)   #2009
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You have not been paying attention. Let me help.

The privateers get favorable EoT to get closer to Toyota.

I mean, if that's not clear by now I don't know what to tell you.
Let me explain this: In the diesel LMP1 regs, it wasn't written in the rules for Audi or Peugeot to be faster written in black and white in the rule book. Under the original hybrid regs, there was nothing written in black and white for Audi, Toyota or Porsche to be faster.

It was basically implied that they should be faster because they're factory efforts. Just like Audi was with the R8 in LMP900, as they were a factory effort, but again, nothing was printed in black and white that they had to be faster.

Now there's a rule written in the rules that Toyota have to be automatically faster, rather than have them be naturally faster due to being a factory effort.

So what if the ACO have given the private teams breaks to be closer to Toyota? Originally it seems that they were supposed to be on pace without an insurance in the rule book for Toyota to be granted a performance advantage.

This goes back to my soapbox comments in the LMP1 rules thread that if the ACO want to give Toyota an advantage, let them have their stint advantage and let everything else play out as it should.

If Toyota end up slower, it's their tough luck. If the privateers end up almost as fast as a factory team, either the ACO did a good job of BOP or got their sums wrong. If privateers naturally end up slower, then that's basically the natural order, like it or not.

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