Lites / LMP3

[joeb]

The Norma has been out testing and will be making its debut at Sebring:

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/elms/...hoto-released/

[Bob Baldwin]

joeb:

Thanks for the link . I will ask the same question posed on the link . How many P 3's will we be seeing at Sebring ?

[FormulaFox]

Originally Posted by joeb

The Norma has been out testing and will be making its debut at Sebring:

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/elms/...hoto-released/

Looks like they took a small amount of inspiration from the Ginetta. Actually a bit surprised it's ended up so different from the M20.

[Rcz]

The IMSA lites series has a tv deal right? When does it air?

[Juntos]

There are so many journos out-there but none reported on Norma successive delays. Sometimes looking for answers only leads to more questions. And sometimes you’re better off not knowing.

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by Bob Baldwin

joeb:

Thanks for the link . I will ask the same question posed on the link . How many P 3's will we be seeing at Sebring ?

This is what I have, but I in no way believe it's exhaustive. Not many people seem to have shown intent or announced so far

IMSA Prototype Challenge

P3

- ANSA Motorsports - Adess 03 Nissan - Matt Dickin / Corey Lewis?

- P1 Motorsports - Ligier JS P3 Nissan - TBA

- Wilzig Racing - Ginetta G57 Nissan - Alan Wilzig / TBA

- MG1 Motorsports - Ligier JS P3 Nissan - TBA

- Davytec Motorsports - Ligier JS P3 Nissan - TBA

- TBA - Norma M30 Nissan - TBA

[Speed-King]

ESM have a Ligier too. And I think there's a few more P3s racing in FARA... I'd expect those to show up at least for Sebring as well.

[FormulaFox]

Don't forget that Lites/Challenge will be a two-class championship now, so it's not necessarily bad to not have a massive number of P3 entries. I would not be concerned as long as it has at least 5 entries.

Now if only they'd do something about the outdated cars in the other class as well.

Originally Posted by Juntos

There are so many journos out-there but none reported on Norma successive delays. Sometimes looking for answers only leads to more questions. And sometimes you’re better off not knowing.

On that note, apparently the Ave-Riley was homologated in December after a November test at Daytona in it's final form.

No, the nose didn't change by any obvious degree.

[Rcz]

Run CN in place of the Panoz DP02, but with mazda engines?

[FormulaFox]

Originally Posted by Rcz

Run CN in place of the Panoz DP02, but with mazda engines?

That's pretty much what I think should be done. Why IMSA doesn't consider it is beyond me.

[peebee2]

Wonder if someone in Europe will pick up the Ave-Riley now they've dropped Murph.

[Bcarr6]

P3

- ANSA Motorsports - Adess 03 Nissan - Matt Dickin

- P1 Motorsports - Ligier JS P3 Nissan - TBA

- Performance Tech - Ginetta G57 Nissan - Alan Wilzig

- Performance Texh - Ligier JS P3 Nissan - Andreas Gutierrez

- MG1 Motorsports - Ligier JS P3 Nissan - TBA

- Davytec Motorsports - Ligier JS P3 Nissan - TBA

- TBA - Norma M30 Nissan - TBA



Slightly updated from last night

[Bcarr6]

In the Creventic 12 hour races, the full season entry is out:

8x G57's, 1x Adess, 1x Norma, 1x Renault RS01, 4x CN's, 1x Tampoli SR2

Not bad plus likely one off entries

[Coach Ep]

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

P3

- ANSA Motorsports - Adess 03 Nissan - Matt Dickin
- P1 Motorsports - Ligier JS P3 Nissan - TBA
- Performance Tech - Ginetta G57 Nissan - Alan Wilzig
- Performance Texh - Ligier JS P3 Nissan - Andreas Gutierrez
- MG1 Motorsports - Ligier JS P3 Nissan - TBA
- Davytec Motorsports - Ligier JS P3 Nissan - TBA
- TBA - Norma M30 Nissan - TBA
Slightly updated from last night

Looks like LMPmotorsport/Davytech plan to run that Norma as well - in addition to (probably) 2 Ligiers, going by their homepage and Facebook page info:

https://www.lmpmotorsports.com
https://www.facebook.com/LMPMotorspo...type=3&theater

include the ESM/Ligier test car and we'll be getting close to 10 entries. Plus perhaps 10 division 2 cars? I would be surprised too see less than 20 cars for the first round of the revamped series.

[Coach Ep]

Btw, the new PC series (former IMSA Lites) plus GT3 Cup is testing at Sebring on Thu+Fri, March 9+10.

That will give a good indication who'll be running round 1 and the rest of the series.

[MoMedic9019]

Originally Posted by FormulaFox

That's pretty much what I think should be done. Why IMSA doesn't consider it is beyond me.

Because LMP3 is far more viable from a marketing prospect.

[FormulaFox]

Originally Posted by MoMedic9019

Because LMP3 is far more viable from a marketing prospect.

First of all, I don't buy that. I don't believe either is more marketable than the other - not in regards to IMSA Prototype Lites/Challenge, at least.

But even if you're right, it doesn't apply. I'm not talking about throwing out LMP3 in favor of CN, I'm talking about throwing out the Elan DP02 in favor of CN.

[Bcarr6]

Can we count G57's under this topic?

If so, Pegasus Racing have bought a G57, for V de V, and Crevantic Proto.

Be nice to see Pegasus moving back up the ladder

[Coach Ep]

Technically, Ginetta's G57 is almost a P2, not a P3 (that's the G55).

But sure, I don't see why not.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Technically, Ginetta's G57 is almost a P2, not a P3 (that's the G55).

But sure, I don't see why not.

The G55 is the GT car. The LMP3 was just called the LMP3. The G57 is an adapted LMP3, not really a P2 car (hence why it's being called a P2, not an LMP2, since it isn't a P2 car by any regs).

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

The G55 is the GT car. The LMP3 was just called the LMP3. The G57 is an adapted LMP3, not really a P2 car (hence why it's being called a P2, not an LMP2, since it isn't a P2 car by any regs).

I totally know the G57 isn't the LMP3, that's wasn't my question

My question was more, do comments on the G57 fit into this P3/Lites thread as the G57 isn't exactly a P2

Seems like it's not worth having a separate thread on the G57, or either the vdev / 24h proto series

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

I totally know the G57 isn't the LMP3, that's wasn't my question

My question was more, do comments on the G57 fit into this P3/Lites thread as the G57 isn't exactly a P2

Seems like it's not worth having a separate thread on the G57, or either the vdev / 24h proto series

Yeah I know, I wasn't answering your question. But if I was, I'd say the G57 fits here better, despite it being called a P2. It's closer to an LMP3, just has a big lump in the back. It certainly isn't a P2 in any shape or form.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Yeah I know, I wasn't answering your question. But if I was, I'd say the G57 fits here better, despite it being called a P2. It's closer to an LMP3, just has a big lump in the back. It certainly isn't a P2 in any shape or form.

Anyone seen the Murphy Riley?!...

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Anyone seen the Murphy Riley?!...

Haha funny

[FormulaFox]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Anyone seen the Murphy Riley?!...

No, but the Riley itself has been seen.