Seeeking detail pics of Gp2 Capri RS2600 and RS3100.

[Greg Cozier]

Any pics or links would help, building a Gp2 car and need as much info on the rear suspension as I can find. Lots available on the Escorts, can't find much on the Capris (although there seems to be quite a bit carried over). Any help appreciated!

[terence]

Sounds like we have something in common! Made contact with one of the original Capri racers [actually bought an Atlas Axle from him,all the right bits in it] Just waiting for a compilation of photos on the very subject

[Greg Cozier]

Thanks Terence.

I run the Barbados Historic Rally Carnival. David Rayner competed last year in a Tiger but he owns an RS2600 Safari car and has sent me several homologation forms. E-mail me at greg at huzier dot com and I'll send them to you. The Safari scrutineer has also sent me some period pics they used for eligibility I can send you. Gordon Spice is also doing some research for me (he only drove GpA cars) so I should have more soon.

My biggest dilemma at this point is deciding between an RS2600 and an RS3100; I'm leaning toward the latter.

I'll be at Goodwood on Sunday, hopefully there will be Capris there..

[Greg Cozier]

PS Do you know the source of your axle exactly? I'd like to measure/copy a Broadspeed axle if I could find one.

[terence]

PM sent.

[John Elwin]

Gentlemen,

The April 2010 issue of German magazine 'Powerslide' (issue #05) may be of interest to you as it has an 11-page in-depth feature on the 3100RS Capri in their 'Cars in Detail' series. The feature includes cutaway artworks, detail drawings & photographs etc.

You can probably get a back issue via their website: www.powerslide-mag.de (hope that doesn't break any rules!).

[Greg Cozier]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

Gentlemen,

The April 2010 issue of German magazine 'Powerslide' (issue #05) may be of interest to you as it has an 11-page in-depth feature on the 3100RS Capri in their 'Cars in Detail' series. The feature includes cutaway artworks, detail drawings & photographs etc.

You can probably get a back issue via their website: www.powerslide-mag.de (hope that doesn't break any rules!).

Thanks John. Any chance you could e-mail scans to me? Found navigating the website difficult with my non-existent knowledge of German.

[ferguson]

Hi Guys. I am also in the process of building a group 2 Capri clone and would be willing to purchase some pics if available.Mine is going to be a late 72. Thanks

[zakspeed65]

Hi All,

Don't have photos of the Capri's but do have Front upright assy for 72 spec Koln
Gp2 Capri, perfect for any proper replica!!
These are the same as Gp2 and Gp5 Zakspeed Escorts

[terence]

Plenty on e-bay as well I'm afraid.

[Greg Cozier]

Originally Posted by ferguson

Hi Guys. I am also in the process of building a group 2 Capri clone and would be willing to purchase some pics if available.Mine is going to be a late 72. Thanks

So that means RS2600, RS3100 wasn't until '74.

E-mail me at greg - at - huzier.com and I'll send you the homologation forms and bits I've found so far.

[terence]

Whilst [trying] to remove the much too short studs from my front hubs,trying as in there was not enough room between the two mounting faces,I suddenly realised why there are four short bolts around the centre of the hub,it is in fact two sections! Very nicely machined but seems an awful lot of work just to get the later type vented disc's on! Anyone seen this before please.




Greg,did you get my details?

[Capri Carl]

Hi Terence, These are RS3100 hubs, (the silver bit with a standard disc brake mount added to it). On my Capri racers I use these hubs with an alloy bell to mount the disc to it.
I think they may have come from a Granada??





Cheers, Carl

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by Capri Carl

Hi Terence, These are RS3100 hubs, (the silver bit with a standard disc brake mount added to it). On my Capri racers I use these hubs with an alloy bell to mount the disc to it.
I think they may have come from a Granada??Cheers, Carl

Granada hubs were five stud I believe....

[terence]

Originally Posted by Capri Carl

Hi Terence, These are RS3100 hubs, (the silver bit with a standard disc brake mount added to it). On my Capri racers I use these hubs with an alloy bell to mount the disc to it.
I think they may have come from a Granada??





Cheers, Carl

Many thanks Carl,like I said it was more out of curiosity than anything else,at least I was told the truth when I bought the car. It currently has the [same] discs as you have,but I'm going up in size with them. What are your calipers,I see they are alloy but are they ATE or Dunlop please.

[Peter Mallett]

It may be relevant to point out that the Group 2 Capri ran centre locks. This was the case from the early 2300 to the post 1976 MkII/III.

My Group 1 Capri MkIII runs AP calipers. The standard front brake set up for the Group 1 cars was the Granada vented disc and caliper.

The Group 2 cars ran 15" wheels and thus bigger brakes and calipers. I recommend anyone who is interested to get hold of the Homologation Certificate. All the information being discussed is in there in FIA stamped pictures.

[terence]

Thanks again Carl,looks nicely sorted. I have some 15 inch wheels on order so obviously the wheels reflect the size of the brakes.Getting all of the 'bit's' together,slowly!.At least I have now finished the shell prepping,lightening ans stiffening,have a superb roll cage being made just 10 minutes away from our England house,convenient for when we get back.

[rs 3400]

Hi,the inner wings where custom made,not from any other car,
15 inch inner tubes from Gartrac to Escort MKII can be used.

[Greg Cozier]

Originally Posted by rs 3400

Hi,the inner wings where custom made,not from any other car,
15 inch inner tubes from Gartrac to Escort MKII can be used.

Interesting thought RS.

There is little doubt from the numerous pictures I've scrounged that the Cologne Capris and early Zakspeed Escorts used the same tubs, both of which have radial pressings that would seem to be superfluous to any custom builder (like Gartrac, I owned a Gartrac escort with 15" tubs). The only other time I've seen such pressings were on my Alan Mann Escort; they were so distinctive they led me to the source, the Mk1 Transit.

What makes you think they were custom made?

[PZR]

Some images from the Nov. 1973 Fuji 'Tourist Trophy' meeting, where two 2600s ( Mass / Glemser and Hezemans / Moffat ) took part in the main 'Pan Am 500' race.

Hopefully of interest...

[Greg Cozier]

Thanks for that! Interesting slipper arrangement on the plastic rear spring and you can make out some pressings/rollings on the outer edge of the rear wheel tub.

[zakspeed65]

Hi PZR,

Brilliant photos!!

There is a 73 car here in NZ that is being restored, I am sure these photos show this car. i will let the owner know in due course.
Are there any more hidden away?

Cheers,

Gary.

[Peter Mallett]

In the book "Capri Development and Competition History of Ford's European GT Car" by Jeremy Walton, there is a picture of the engine bay of the 1973 car (p147). There is no evidence of the roll cage in the engine bay. OTOH the Zakspeed Gp 5 was a space frame and thus had the frame (or roll cage) running to the front of the car.

Likewise in Mike Taylor's "Ford Capri" there is a pic of the RS2600 with the Ford-Weslake V6, bored out to 2900cc (p139). But no roll cage in the engine bay.

[brown dog]

I have spent several hours studying the 74 car that is here in NZ, and it certainly does have the rollcage extending through the bulkhead. I have some pics of the Peter Muecke car, which is the only other genuine 74 car that I know of, and it appears to have the same bars in the engine bay too. You can see it in the pic below, outlined in red. It is only maybe 1" -1 1/4" diameter, and runs down both sides and is welded to the top of the chassis leg, just forward of the crossmember mounting. Not sure if the 73 cars had this feature though.

Conrad

[Peter Mallett]

Very difficult to tell whether that is indeed a roll cage component. If it is the roll cage I'd suggest it was added when the car went to the antipodes and perhaps complies with local regs. Didn't that car also run a 427 V8 at one point?