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View Poll Results: Who is the greatest F1 driver?
Lewis Hamilton 22 24.72%
Michael Schumacher 9 10.11%
Juan Manuel Fangio 6 6.74%
Alain Prost 5 5.62%
Ayrton Senna 19 21.35%
Jackie Stewart 0 0%
Jim Clark 15 16.85%
Alberto Ascari 0 0%
Fernando Alonso 1 1.12%
Niki Lauda 3 3.37%
Stirling Moss 2 2.25%
Sebastian Vettel 0 0%
Nigel Mansell 0 0%
Nelson Piquet 0 0%
James Hunt 0 0%
Mika Hakkinen 0 0%
Giles Villeneuve 2 2.25%
Max Verstappen 0 0%
Nico Rosberg 0 0%
Jack Brabham 3 3.37%
Carlos Reutemann 0 0%
Jochen Rindt 0 0%
Ronnie Peterson 1 1.12%
Kimi Raikkonen 1 1.12%
Graham Hill 0 0%
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Old 2 Mar 2021, 15:06 (Ref:4037952)   #1
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Who is the Greatest F1 driver of all time?

Who is the Greatest F1 driver since the very first race in 1950?
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Old 2 Mar 2021, 15:49 (Ref:4037968)   #2
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So I voted for Lewis Hamilton, for reasons that I have previously mentioned on the other poll. Although I think, on pure driving ability, Michael Schumacher was the greatest. But he is ruled out because of Jerez 1997. I think Hamilton has the raw speed and makes few enough mistakes. As I said, I don't want him as number one, because I think he has too many flaws to be the GOAT. But I think every other driver has more flaws, so I am going to have Hamilton as number one.
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Old 2 Mar 2021, 15:53 (Ref:4037969)   #3
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Interesting to see that the previous version of this poll (from nearly 20 years ago!) voted Senna as the greatest. I wonder if we will have the same opinion 20 years later.
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Just a small point, with one or two exceptions all those listed are World Champions. Shouldn't it be any driver and if so what about Jackie Ickx, or John Surtees to name but two?
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Who is the Greatest F1 driver since the very first race in 1950?
Interesting list you provide - and a few WDCs missing?

Fittipaldi - 2x WDC with different teams (including youngest ever at the time), CART title and 2x Indy500.

Hawthorn - 1st British WDC. 24h Le Mans winner.

Surtees - WDC and multiple successes on 2 wheels.

Keke Rosberg - WDC and father of a WDC.

Farina - 1st ever WDC.

Mario Andretti - Named the "Driver of the Century" by the Associated Press and RACER magazine, 2000.

Damon Hill - took a title in the midst of Schumacher's era.

Jacques Villeneuve - achieved a title in F1 (something Gilles did not).

There are cases to be made for any of these to be on the list ahead of some of the choices - so my vote would be for 'other'.
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Interesting to see that the previous version of this poll (from nearly 20 years ago!) voted Senna as the greatest. I wonder if we will have the same opinion 20 years later.
Do you have a link to that to save me searching?
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I voted for Hamilton.

For me he is on a three-man shortlist with Senna and Schumacher.

If I wanted a driver to drive one lap to save my life, I’d pick Senna. But he was too willing to drive rivals off the track, too unwilling to accept the right of others to even be on the same track. Exhilarating, inspiring, driven, awesome. But flawed.

If I wanted to build an entire team from scratch and make it great, I’d pick Schumacher. Re-invented what was expected of drivers physically, technically, mechanically. But...his numbers are inflated by having co-drivers not allowed to compete. And he had some awful cynical moments that diminished him.

If I wanted a driver to turn up race after race, year after year and all but guarantee that the car would go as fast as it could, never making mistakes, setting relentless standards of brilliance, I’d pick Hamilton. He pushes everyone around him to new standards of excellence. He breaks teammates with his intensity. He stands alone among his peers and for me, atop this awesome list.
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Interesting list you provide - and a few WDCs missing?

Fittipaldi - 2x WDC with different teams (including youngest ever at the time), CART title and 2x Indy500.

Hawthorn - 1st British WDC. 24h Le Mans winner.

Surtees - WDC and multiple successes on 2 wheels.

Keke Rosberg - WDC and father of a WDC.

Farina - 1st ever WDC.

Mario Andretti - Named the "Driver of the Century" by the Associated Press and RACER magazine, 2000.

Damon Hill - took a title in the midst of Schumacher's era.

Jacques Villeneuve - achieved a title in F1 (something Gilles did not).

There are cases to be made for any of these to be on the list ahead of some of the choices - so my vote would be for 'other'.
I originally had 64 drivers on the list, but decided that was too many and reduced it to 25. If your vote is for 'other' that must mean you have a particular driver in mind as the greatest. Unless you would vote for 'no opinion' which is fine too.
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Do you have a link to that to save me searching?
I just noticed it in the 'similar threads' section at the bottom of this thread.
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I originally had 64 drivers on the list, but decided that was too many and reduced it to 25. If your vote is for 'other' that must mean you have a particular driver in mind as the greatest. Unless you would vote for 'no opinion' which is fine too.
I'm between Fittipaldi for success, Surtees for talent and Jacques Villeneuve for style.
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https://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12779 ????
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Just a small point, with one or two exceptions all those listed are World Champions. Shouldn't it be any driver and if so what about Jackie Ickx, or John Surtees to name but two?
Well the maximum allowed is 64 options, but I thought it was too many to have 64 drivers in the poll. If you want to vote for Ickx or Surtees, just write as a comment,

I vote for ...

and everyone can just add it to a mental list, but I doubt very many people will vote for someone not on that list.
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I originally had 64 drivers on the list, but decided that was too many and reduced it to 25. If your vote is for 'other' that must mean you have a particular driver in mind as the greatest. Unless you would vote for 'no opinion' which is fine too.
Out of interest - what criteria did you decide to use to reduce the list?

The following was published in 2016, which differs quite a bit from your list:



Has Emerson Fittipaldi really gone from being in people's top ten 5 years ago to not being in the top 25 now?
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Out of interest - what criteria did you decide to use to reduce the list?

The following was published in 2016, which differs quite a bit from your list:



Has Emerson Fittipaldi really gone from being in people's top ten 5 years ago to not being in the top 25 now?
The criteria was simply who I thought people might vote for. Maybe Fittipaldi should be in there instead of Reutemann, but I didn’t expect people to vote for Fittipaldi. Apologies if you want to vote for him.
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I'm between Fittipaldi for success, Surtees for talent and Jacques Villeneuve for style.
Style as in 'Baggy trousers'....... ?
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