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Hill ran a Racing Services BD series, but no idea of what Charnell had in the back.
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6 Aug 2008, 10:57 (Ref:2264387)
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The last BT38 ever?
Guys - with fear and trepidation, I'm entering this discussion. I have in my workshop a BT38 in many, many pieces - with chassis number 41. The hard work starts here - although I'm failry certain it's complete - minus engine and box. Any thoughts on a good source of detailed photos, drawings?
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6 Aug 2008, 14:41 (Ref:2264529)
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Welcome Mark. What do you know of your car's history?
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6 Aug 2008, 21:49 (Ref:2264799)
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Welcome Mark
Do you have a photo of the plate? 41 would completely transform our ideas of how many BT38s were built Chris |
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7 Aug 2008, 19:46 (Ref:2265509)
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Brabham BT38 - 41
Well that's what I though - at first and then caught this from a while back on the Brabham Owners site http://www.nvo.com/brabhams -
Subject BT38s Nos 37 & 38  Date Sat Jun 26 2004 16:10 Author Mark Barton I have got two formula 3 brabhams and am trying to trace the history of them.Believe one of them was run by Vittorio Brambilla. They were last run in anger in anout 1996 in HSCC Classic Formula 3 by David Proctor, who won the series with them. Other than a front stubaxle that has picked up on the bearing, both cars are now "on the button". One was out at Oulton Park last year for the Gold Cup, watched by none other than Black Jack. Shame I put it in the tyre wall! So my question would be where are 39 & 40! I believe that 41 came out of Italy some years ago, was stripped and prepared - but never rebuilt. Any thoughts on history would be welcome. I've got some hand drawings of various suspension parts that I will scan soon. Mark |
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7 Aug 2008, 22:32 (Ref:2265605)
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Vittorio Brambilla's BT38C was chassis 21, later used in 1972 by Alberto Colombo and perhaps sold to Carlo Giorgio for 1973 Chassis number is given in Autosprint's seasonal survey for 1972 Italian F3 season I believe that only 14 BT38Cs were built and that the number sequence started at 11 with Peter Hull's car, so B38C-25 would be the highest build number. It may be that the 41 refers to the tub number rather than the car itself. BT38C-17 [Randy Lewis's car] had tub AM72/43 but there is no correllation between tub number and chassis number, so 41 would not necessarily equate to 38C-15. Only three BT38Cs were sold to Italy as far as I can see: 21 to Brambilla; 22 to Vittorio Venturi and one other, chassis number unknown, to Alessandro Guidetti. However, I've only got 13 names against new BT38Cs and as I said, there were probably 14 built, so there may have been one more. Chris |
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8 Aug 2008, 08:09 (Ref:2265751)
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BT38 and all that
Chris - thank you. I'm going over later and will try and get photos of both the tub number and chassis number. Incidentally, look what's on ebay at the moment:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=120291564476 Looks like it was originally run in F3 with a later motor. All donations etc. Mark |
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15 Nov 2008, 00:49 (Ref:2335131)
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Whatever happenned to BT38 ex Graham Hill / Kaydon Racing / Jagermeister
Does anyone know what happenned to the ex Graham Hill BT38 chassis no??? run by Kaydon Racing in 1972 under Jagermeister sponsorship?
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Welcome DeeKay, but you could try looking/asking in the BT38 thread which is where I'm sending this to.
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15 Nov 2008, 22:48 (Ref:2335495)
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BT38's
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Welcome Dave, I'm sure a lot of people here can learn a lot from your input, as I have enjoyed over the years. Denis |
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16 Nov 2008, 03:32 (Ref:2335572)
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Dave welcome indeed, great to see you here. I'll second what Denis said!
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20 Nov 2008, 08:24 (Ref:2338167)
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The ex hill BT38 was last heard of in the Hampshire area (uk) complete but dismantled. I expect its still there
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16 Apr 2009, 01:25 (Ref:2441879)
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BT 38B-14
I have BT38B -14 that I have no history on . It was last raced pre 1981 and was wondering who had this car when new. I see that only five were built and I know Nick Craw had one new (unsure if it was a regular BT 38 or a BT 38B??) that he raced in the states in 1972.
I have some 1972/73 pro races entry lists and I will post when I get them all out. Any info??? Thanks, Mike Winebrenner Louisville, KY USA |
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When I was in the states last year I visited a race shop and up in the roof was a BT38 in Rondel colours.I could not get to see its CH No but was told it was a rondel car.
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Does anybody here have any pictures of the Chris Meek BT38-28 F/Atlantic car? We've just aquired it and would love to restore it in it's "Tate of Leeds" livery.
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You were quoting me from five and a half year ago Andrew!
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Brabham BT38 Progress
The BT38 thread has been very quiet for some time, strange this as a BT38 (Crispian Besley) raced in the Derek Bell Trophy race yesterday at Silverstone seemed to be going very well.
Mike Hibberd is hoping to race his BT38 next month. James Claridge tells me he is progressing with the build of his BT38. Seems like a bit of a resurgance for this model in Historic Racing Hope this is OK Delta ! Stan Hibberd |
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BT38 /15 - ex Rondel car (Wollek / Reutemann) is up for sale in UK.
http://www.damax.co.uk/for-sale/ - £75,000. |
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I am trying to search out the history on a Brabham BT38 and I was hoping someone on here might be able to help as I don't have a chassis number
The car has not run for many years but was previously a hill climb car with a BDA engine - it was owned by Andy Sauvarin in Guernsey in the early/mid 1980's and before that Tom Coughlan I believe. We have the arch motors stamp 72/24 |
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