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Old 18 Jun 2019, 01:11 (Ref:3912588)   #26
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Forgive my potential ignorance, but doesn't this go against the point of the whole thing being road car based?
Indeed. I would assume the homologation process is not too different from the way it is done in GTE.
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 23:55 (Ref:3913205)   #27
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I'm wondering what will/won't be allowed in the Hypercar LMP1 regs. The front wing and huge tunnels on the Valkyrie can't be legal per the ACO, right?

Also, Graham from DSC in the non-ACO specific Aston Martin Racing thread said that the Valhalla was supposed to form the original basis for AMR's LMP1 Hypercar. I wonder what changed that and what form a Valhalla influenced LMP1 might have taken, be it GTE+ or a DPI-like LMP1 like what Toyota's might very well be.
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Old 21 Jun 2019, 08:05 (Ref:3913248)   #28
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I'm wondering what will/won't be allowed in the Hypercar LMP1 regs. The front wing and huge tunnels on the Valkyrie can't be legal per the ACO, right?

Also, Graham from DSC in the non-ACO specific Aston Martin Racing thread said that the Valhalla was supposed to form the original basis for AMR's LMP1 Hypercar. I wonder what changed that and what form a Valhalla influenced LMP1 might have taken, be it GTE+ or a DPI-like LMP1 like what Toyota's might very well be.
I'm not 100% but the article I linked to from Japanese Autosport seemingly says that the under body is more open than the current regs.
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Old 21 Jun 2019, 14:32 (Ref:3913332)   #29
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Anyone know whether these cars will need to have BHH/BHF. Or could we finally be rid of that sh*te due to the slower speeds, roadcar cues etc.
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Old 21 Jun 2019, 14:43 (Ref:3913334)   #30
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Anyone know whether these cars will need to have BHH/BHF. Or could we finally be rid of that sh*te due to the slower speeds, roadcar cues etc.
I'm guessing fin will still be there but maybe some leeway on the fender holes?
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Old 21 Jun 2019, 15:18 (Ref:3913339)   #31
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Anyone know whether these cars will need to have BHH/BHF. Or could we finally be rid of that sh*te due to the slower speeds, roadcar cues etc.
Was wondering the same thing. I would think it would be harder to enforce because the car dimensions are not defined in the same way. The current regs require the fin to have a surface area of 3 sq metres. You're not going to get a 3 sq m fin on a Valkyrie without it looking like a yacht. Maybe require a fin at roof height back to the rear wing? Hopefully they get scrapped altogether.

Also, the cars will be significantly heavier so maybe that will help to keep them on the ground, GTE-style.
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Old 21 Jun 2019, 16:31 (Ref:3913359)   #32
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I guess the fin should not be very different than the AMR Pro.

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Old 21 Jun 2019, 16:33 (Ref:3913361)   #33
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Was wondering the same thing. I would think it would be harder to enforce because the car dimensions are not defined in the same way. The current regs require the fin to have a surface area of 3 sq metres. You're not going to get a 3 sq m fin on a Valkyrie without it looking like a yacht. Maybe require a fin at roof height back to the rear wing? Hopefully they get scrapped altogether.

Also, the cars will be significantly heavier so maybe that will help to keep them on the ground, GTE-style.
Good point on the weight, GTE cars didn't have the same flying problem as LMP1, but then again they weren't going as fast.
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Anyone know whether these cars will need to have BHH/BHF. Or could we finally be rid of that sh*te due to the slower speeds, roadcar cues etc.
Go ask TMG and Multimatic's aero departments. Because wind tunnel testing is part of the homologation process now you just have to have the car wind tunnel or CFD certified to meet the aerodynamic stability targets rather than mandating specific features to make sure any car can. How achievable that will be without the existing devices isn't something any of us are qualified to answer.

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Old 21 Jun 2019, 21:53 (Ref:3913398)   #35
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I guess the fin should not be very different than the AMR Pro.

They should just run that thing and call it a day. Maybe make the wing a little higher or whatever but that thing looks like it's 99% ready to go.
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Old 22 Jun 2019, 11:23 (Ref:3913461)   #36
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They should just run that thing and call it a day. Maybe make the wing a little higher or whatever but that thing looks like it's 99% ready to go.
Throw some racing Michelins on it and let her rip on the track. I'd pay to see that!
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Old 22 Jun 2019, 20:25 (Ref:3913559)   #37
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Aston's Chris Goodwin again reiterating on the N24 coverage that we can expect privateer Astons on the grid - seemingly from the outset.
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Or is that the factory effort will seem like a privateer effort?

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Old 22 Jun 2019, 22:37 (Ref:3913586)   #39
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Last time that Aston has been in top Le Mans category we all know how the story finished. Their priority can't be selling cars to privateers, but to build a double-stint car in first place.
Fortunately for them the car is already 'built'. They need to test it and all that first but being based on the road Valkyrie is already a better deal than the last attempt.
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Nice

Shame it’s not in gulf colours.
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Not a shame at all IMO. I think it looks very smart indeed.
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I 'm probably a minority, but I find it really ugly. Sorry ...
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I like it. Not sure if it's going to look like this in hypercar trim, I think it'll be better.
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I do like it and the concept car livery looks alright. Can't wait to see it in racing colours
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I do like it and the concept car livery looks alright. Can't wait to see it in racing colours

that livery is because of an AMR / redbull promotional event during f1 silverstone week-end.
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that livery is because of an AMR / redbull promotional event during f1 silverstone week-end.
And Red Bull did MOST of the work on the car. It's a Red Bull pet project to make such a car and keep Newey engaged and entertained.
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