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Happy David Thexton Day, 21st March 2003 “I am not uncertain” - Dollar Bill Stern, Billions “Fear stimulates my imagination” - Don Draper, Mad Men “Everybody Lies” - Dr Gregory House, House “Trust But Verify” - Commissioner Frank Reagan, Blue Bloods |
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Happy David Thexton Day, 21st March 2003 “I am not uncertain” - Dollar Bill Stern, Billions “Fear stimulates my imagination” - Don Draper, Mad Men “Everybody Lies” - Dr Gregory House, House “Trust But Verify” - Commissioner Frank Reagan, Blue Bloods |
11 Apr 2019, 09:44 (Ref:3896773) | #28 | ||
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The FG and the ZB I think were a very good match. look at the ZB side profile it's like a concrete block wall in the front. |
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It was, and they built a better car: the Mustang. Surely they should reap the rewards of their efforts and hard work! It's clear as day Ford Performance and DJR Team Penske are the best of the best. It's up to the others to step up and do a better job, as outlined below... Clear guidelines have been established based on Mustang -- i.e., carbon fibre bodyworks kits are allowed all round. Therefore, it would be better to keep the agreed homologations (with no COG stipulation) in 2019 and for Holden and Nissan to homologate new bodywork using carbon fibre door jambs, pillars and sill panels in 2020; in the process they could address their perceived aero weaknesses too. Just stick with the VCAT equivalence which works fine -- it gives a number to work to (downforce & drag at 200kmhr with zero yaw), the designers can then chase performance at all other situations. With full carbon-fibre reinforced plastic bodywork on all entrants (supposedly Mustang requires 120kg ballast [thanks to the hard work of Tickford & DJRTP designing a wonderful lightweight bodywork kit], so the car could easily have 100kg taken out -- the same would apply to the rivals once they homologate new bodywork kits based on full carbon-fibre), the weight of these lumbering "touring cars" could then be reduced by 100kg across the board which would be great! 650hp/1295kg is a damn sight better than 650hp/1395kg! Last edited by V8 Fireworks; 11 Apr 2019 at 13:28. |
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Lol at anyone wanting "close racing", seemingly only come up with the idea this season though?
Must have had laryngitis or something during 888 near decade of dominance. A lot of those championships were not close either |
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12 Apr 2019, 02:11 (Ref:3896922) | #35 | ||
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Given the hysteria lately about Holden's chequebook have all the Ford whiners forgotten 888 being untouchable in Fords too?
One team dominating for a period of time doesn't indicate a parity problem. I agree with Ryan Walkinshaw though, it is clear there is now an arms race where the resources poured into creating have created a vehicle that lives outside the ability of the historical testing for the purposes of establishing parity. New methods should be sought but 2 rounds in I think is perhaps inappropriate. On the flipside if we had 6 Mustangs heading most races except when they tread on their own feet, it's no good either. Also important to say the Ford teams are as much of a part of the decision making process and have a vote in the sport like anybody else. Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk |
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12 Apr 2019, 02:24 (Ref:3896923) | #36 | ||
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Not to mention, one team dominating DOES indicate a parity problem. The whole point of parity racing is close, fair racing - it's not really important why their is disparity, only that it be addressed. If everyone was in Commodores but T8 won every season, to me, that is a parity problem. Though not car related, the result is the same - boring races no one watched |
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12 Apr 2019, 02:30 (Ref:3896924) | #37 | ||
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And one team is currently dominating the very initial stages of the championship, so by your count there's not a parity problem. Good to know. |
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12 Apr 2019, 05:50 (Ref:3896936) | #39 | ||
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Ummm, anyone know who Rick Kelly was returning 'the bird' to at the entry of pitlane deep in that second session?
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Maybe it was a Nissan rep?
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Geeze - there seems to be a huge lack of acceptance in that DJRTP, and to a lesser extent TR, can do a better job than 888. A cynic might even think some commentators earn some sort of commission from plugging the "parity" perspective here, there, and everywhere. |
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12 Apr 2019, 12:01 (Ref:3896991) | #48 | |
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It's not real good out there.
I could understand the resentment. |
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12 Apr 2019, 12:45 (Ref:3896997) | #49 | |
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Mustangs in their rightful place, superb!
It's hardly a problem. Especially when Nissan and Holden will be able to rehomologate their bodywork and aero packages in 2020 -- whereby they can achieve both lower weight and improved downforce all in one swoop! |
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The rule clearly implies that all the entrants are allowed to optimise downforce and drag everywhere else (they each get an annual homologation opportunity to do so), and why shouldn't they be able to? |
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