A Friend Remembered A Tribute to Mike Bell 2021 Calendar

crmalcolm · 1 Jan 2021, 23:23 (Ref:4026378)

Karun Chandok, Narain Karthikeyan, Pascal Wehrlein and Juan Pablo Montoya are all non-white or mixed-race former F1 drivers.

bathurst77 · 2 Jan 2021, 00:58 (Ref:4026384)

I dont understand the negativity. How does the knighthood negatively affect, disadvantage or hurt anyone? There are people squealing like they are being asked to pay for it from their own purse.
Yes it takes one second longer to add a syllable when writing or saying his full name, i think we can live with that pain. In what other way are you suffering that you got such a butt hurt? Hey it makes work for printers making new stationery.

He has won more races than anybody ever. He has dominated the sport for years and he has made the sport think about openness and equality (which isnt a bad thing)
Im not a LH fan, I prefer it when he doesnt win (Im a Dan man) but I think if knighthoods are to be given to any sports stars for their performance then he deserves one.

midgetman · 2 Jan 2021, 08:00 (Ref:4026403)

D'you know I hadn't even thought about those drivers. I presume that proves something positive about me - I don't notice race!

I think motor sport transcends national barriers like no other. As a kid my hero was Swedish, never mind that we had a British world championship challenger to support. It was good to see Hunt do well of course but Ronnie was the best.

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**bella** · 2 Jan 2021, 08:48 (Ref:4026405)

aitken is also half korean.

with the exception of wehrlein (who was always said to be demanding to work with, interestingly from the “uppity black woman” mould) though all these chaps are subject to the usual ~”hard working asian” stereotypes. it’s perhaps interesting to note there’s no dutch drivers of indonesian heritage, british pakistani or indians, or romani drivers. less positive stereotypes from the usual suspects for those folk.

E.B · 2 Jan 2021, 09:16 (Ref:4026407)

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I think motor sport transcends national barriers like no other. As a kid my hero was Swedish, never mind that we had a British world championship challenger to support. It was good to see Hunt do well of course but Ronnie was the best.

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Agree with you on that one Max..... Although I have lived in Aus since the eighties, I still proudly use a British passport and am proudly British. In the 70's my hero was Niki Lauda, which caused some interesting discussions with my mates and racing partner at the time who were all fervent supporters of Hunt. Brands 1976 I think it was, was an interesting day, especially as we were on an improvised scaffolding at Paddock.

ascarracinguk · 2 Jan 2021, 09:33 (Ref:4026410)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Karun Chandok, Narain Karthikeyan, Pascal Wehrlein and Juan Pablo Montoya are all non-white or mixed-race former F1 drivers.

Add to that Sato or any other Jap driver....

**bella** · 2 Jan 2021, 10:01 (Ref:4026412)

ah yes, there’s never a shortage of derogatory “kamikaze” references for the japanese drivers, especially the ones who are keen to overtake.

just to add to my previous point, all stereotypes have negative effects on the person being stereotyped.

Kato · 4 Jan 2021, 10:20 (Ref:4026678)

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ah yes, there’s never a shortage of derogatory “kamikaze” references for the japanese drivers, especially the ones who are keen to overtake.

just to add to my previous point, all stereotypes have negative effects on the person being stereotyped.

It would be good stop and think we had evolved a bit further than denigrating someone along racial, religious, sexual, or gender stereotypes. Anyone who plants his or her bum in a F1 car is doing something we just can't imagine, as much as we wish we could, let alone do. Good luck to the lot of them, except...?

**bella** · 4 Jan 2021, 10:51 (Ref:4026687)

well yeah, it would be nice to think we'd evolved beyond that. *we* probably have done. the cesspit that is the internet, however...

Kato · 6 Jan 2021, 03:37 (Ref:4027086)

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Originally Posted by bathurst77

... I'm not a LH fan, I prefer it when he doesn't win (I'm a Dan man) but I think if knighthoods are to be given to any sports stars for their performance then he deserves one.

This I agree wholeheartedly with. Even us non Lewis people recognize he is the very best of his generation. As to the GOAT, this is unprovable and by definition would need the end of time or F1, whichever comes first, to determine.

And from a person with the Username Bathurst77 who must be a devotee of The Great Man. Excellent stuff indeed.

S griffin · 6 Jan 2021, 11:32 (Ref:4027133)

I’m from the UK and I’d like to say Danny has become my favourite driver too. He’s certainly one guaranteed to put a smile on your face

Kato · 20 Jan 2021, 07:06 (Ref:4030173)

I am surprised that people aren't more concerned with Sir Lewis's stalemated contract negotiations. Does he get a year off following this honour?

steve_r · 20 Jan 2021, 08:46 (Ref:4030199)

Is it a concern?

Is it actually at stalemate? Or has it all been agreed, but just not announced? Or is it about to be signed? We dont know. I assume an agreement will be reached.

Is it a concern as such? If Hamilton signs, then we have the possability of a record breaking 8th WDC. If he does not sign, then the possability of Verstappen, Bottas and Russell fighing it out is a very exciting prospect.

Of more concern is everything else that is happening in the world at the moment.

**Peter Mallett** · 20 Jan 2021, 08:57 (Ref:4030204)

More a case of "do we care?". Rich bloke wants more money, similar impact to "dog bites man".

Great driver, deservedly a Sir but personally I won't be sad if he's not on the grid this year.

ascarracinguk · 20 Jan 2021, 10:49 (Ref:4030220)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

More a case of "do we care?". Rich bloke wants more money, similar impact to "dog bites man".

Great driver, deservedly a Sir but personally I won't be sad if he's not on the grid this year.

firstly none of us know that for sure. all people have to go on is quotes from the daily express at the moment.....hardly world renound for accuracy.

Secondly, as a 7 time champ, why should he want more money? noone complained when Schumacher or Vettel wanted more after winning their titles.

Finally....really? if be sad if one of the best driving talents wasnt on the grid this year, it would leave a decent sized hole in the talent pool of F1.