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ModelT · 21 Apr 2017, 12:57 (Ref:3728161)

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Originally Posted by Ospi

The engine package deal is interesting, that's an awful lot of money for what's actually quite a standard engine package. Does it include the rebuild costs which would have to occur at least once during the season? Does it include a spare engine which will be a necessity? What about the gearbox & bellhousing? Still not enough info yet but that cost definitely caught my interest so I'm keen to know all the details which that cost accounts for.

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I am also curious as to what this engine package includes for the quoted price?

All the race season rebuilds, testing mileage to a limit, a spare engine with the team (absolute essential one would think)?

There was some mention that this engine will be exclusive to Ginetta? Wonderful idea for Ginetta, but not so wonderful for Meccachrome if they don't sell any cars.

I can see that becoming non exclusive very quickly then

Speed-King · 21 Apr 2017, 14:03 (Ref:3728176)

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Originally Posted by ModelT

I am also curious as to what this engine package includes for the quoted price?

All the race season rebuilds, testing mileage to a limit, a spare engine with the team (absolute essential one would think)?

There was some mention that this engine will be exclusive to Ginetta? Wonderful idea for Ginetta, but not so wonderful for Meccachrome if they don't sell any cars.

I can see that becoming non exclusive very quickly then

Yeah, I asked the question about the exclusivity in the Friday press conference and they appeared rather set on this being a Ginetta-only deal.

hondafan37 · 21 Apr 2017, 14:17 (Ref:3728181)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Yeah, I asked the question about the exclusivity in the Friday press conference and they appeared rather set on this being a Ginetta-only deal.

I suppose the meccachrome business is in F2 and GP3.

Mike E · 23 Apr 2017, 07:54 (Ref:3728559)

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Originally Posted by canaglia

does anybody know the price of the gibson leasing and if oreca/oak/dallara/riley new lmp2 chassis have a cost cap?

The LMP2 chassis cost cap is €483000.

http://www.europeanlemansseries.com/...rent-classes/4

And the Gibson costs €1250 per hour to run, whatever that means.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124807

carbsmith · 24 Apr 2017, 10:11 (Ref:3728840)

For the old regulations you can outright buy the engines for €86778 and have them rebuilt for €40500, but practically speaking everyone was leasing them anyways which is €1402/hour.

TF110 · 25 May 2017, 23:33 (Ref:3736056)

DSC getting early access to the windtunnel/cfd model. A new render is shown too.

hondafan37 · 14 Jun 2017, 16:11 (Ref:3741242)

New Pics Of Ginetta LMP1 In Williams Wind Tunnel.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...nd-tunnel.html

TF110 · 14 Jun 2017, 20:48 (Ref:3741359)

looks good. A big diffuser, much bigger than the hybrid cars.

Japanese Samurai · 15 Jun 2017, 09:27 (Ref:3741547)

https://twitter.com/dailysportscar/s...6203157303300/
This rear end looks like an early concept of Dome S103 which has an air tunnel.

deggis · 21 Jun 2017, 09:13 (Ref:3745693)

Model in the wind tunnel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XASVoOcrJ5M

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...l-testing.html

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...r-ginetta.html

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“We then have to find out how much fuel flow we’ll get but with already 100 hp more than an LMP2 and with more advanced aero in a car that is 100 kg lighter we know that it is going to be rather faster than 3:25 at Le Mans!

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“At the moment we have more serious interest than we will have cars available. The plan is for 10 chassis: A development car, we hope three teams of two race cars each and a spare tub for each of those teams.

canaglia · 21 Jun 2017, 09:53 (Ref:3745695)

CLM nismo engine should push not less than 650hp, considering that it was able to hit 3:24 without any real aero development; guess that with the same power and a much better developed aero (+ michelin tyres pheraps) 3:22 shouldn't be an issues.

Considering also that next year, very likely lmp2 will be able to set 3:24 at least.

Let's see if this ginetta lmp1 will be in grid for real next season

Akrapovic · 21 Jun 2017, 11:08 (Ref:3745711)

I thought Sam Collins said the CLM Nismo engine was at 600hp due to the fuel flow, but capable of 700.

canaglia · 21 Jun 2017, 11:23 (Ref:3745716)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I thought Sam Collins said the CLM Nismo engine was at 600hp due to the fuel flow, but capable of 700.

being a V6 twin turbo, it could push up to 1000hp with an insane turbo pressure boost.
Anyway, CLM aero development is quite poor, so I guess it produces a lot of drag and a laughable downforce. Anyway the car managed to hit 340km/h at le mans and was the highest top speed car at spa too.
Considering that the car should have >100kg/h fuel flows, the real power output could be really over 600hp. Won't be surprised if has >750Nm as torque peak, being nismo gt-r engine revlimit set to 6500rpm if 2015 memory help me.

BTW, over 700Nm, >600hp @6500rpm... these remind me the DBR9 V12 figures....

PorscheFanNo1 · 21 Jun 2017, 12:14 (Ref:3745730)

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Originally Posted by canaglia

BTW, over 700Nm, >600hp @6500rpm... these remind me the DBR9 V12 figures....

I miss those V12's...

TF110 · 21 Jun 2017, 21:00 (Ref:3745859)

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Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

I miss those V12's...

And their sound! Never saw one live, but even on the TV they sounded great. I wonder if anyone besides Kolles will ask for the Nismo engine.