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13 Nov 2019, 15:54 (Ref:3940425)
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I don't understand what sense it makes to enter this for 2022 LM (or 2023 if they mean the 22-23 winter season) given that it will get very limited running period, before the class mercifully gets replaced by Zero Emission for 2024-2025
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Because not enough manufacturers will sign up for zero emission so they will BoP them all together.
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13 Nov 2019, 16:04 (Ref:3940426)
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Originally Posted by Mike E
Because not enough manufacturers will sign up for zero emission so they will BoP them all together.
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Nightmare fuel
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Oreca 07 beta + 508 engine, bopped, shmopped, balanced, standardized, equalized, summarized = obligatory Peugeot title in ACO series. Where can I bet?
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I wanna bet on that too, we're going to be millionaires. Profiting through misery!
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13 Nov 2019, 16:06 (Ref:3940427)
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Originally Posted by Chiana
I don't understand what sense it makes to enter this for 2022 LM (or 2023 if they mean the 22-23 winter season) given that it will get very limited running period, before the class mercifully gets replaced by Zero Emission for 2024-2025
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"WEC from 2022" is the wording so clearly must mean debuts at WEC 2022-23 round #1.
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13 Nov 2019, 16:33 (Ref:3940431)
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Well well well the rumours where true after all, interesting. The question is who is going put there hat into the ring next...????
Oh yes and just one other point (that I have picked up from the Midweek Motorsport Collective over on Facebook) if they come in in 2022/23 then there first Le Mans will be 2023 which of course is just in time for the Centenary Celebrations at Le Mans....
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13 Nov 2019, 16:49 (Ref:3940435)
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Originally Posted by Chiana
Nightmare fuel 
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The genie is out of the bottle. BoP til we drop.
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13 Nov 2019, 17:33 (Ref:3940440)
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Why announce this and not enter for the 2021/22 start of the hypercar season. why wait another year?
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13 Nov 2019, 19:10 (Ref:3940452)
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Originally Posted by Mike E
The genie is out of the bottle. BoP til we drop.
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But my hopes and dreams of the return of technological top class, something Zero Emission promised to present, it is what gets me through through these upcoming difficult years... it's like believing in religion  maybe me and helgi, and I don't know arakis if he still breaths, should form rebellion of sorts to fight the Empire
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13 Nov 2019, 19:23 (Ref:3940453)
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Hopefully this puts off the 0-emissions for another couple of years. I'm more interested in hypercar than a formula-e sportscar type series. Think these cars are slow, the 0-emissions cars will be GTE pace unless they're carrying a huge battery and allowed mega amounts of hydrogen or something. The worst thing about hypercar is bop and the huge amount of weight. I'm glad Peugeot are coming back, now if Aston Martin fails, they can have someone else to fall back on.
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13 Nov 2019, 19:32 (Ref:3940457)
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I wonder if when they say 2022 they might do selected races at the tail end of the 2021/22 season to get some racing miles under their belt. The 2023 thing is interesting, i wonder how Porsche and Audi are going to feel if Toyota or Peugeot win the centenary race..
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13 Nov 2019, 20:10 (Ref:3940466)
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Hopefully this puts off the 0-emissions for another couple of years. I'm more interested in hypercar than a formula-e sportscar type series. Think these cars are slow, the 0-emissions cars will be GTE pace unless they're carrying a huge battery and allowed mega amounts of hydrogen or something. The worst thing about hypercar is bop and the huge amount of weight. I'm glad Peugeot are coming back, now if Aston Martin fails, they can have someone else to fall back on.
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I would assume they'd be running big batteries and fuel storages anyway, in order to ensure smooth running and no constant visits to the pits.
Formula E is cheap, glorified spec racing, that's now what the proposal here was
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13 Nov 2019, 20:33 (Ref:3940470)
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Originally Posted by kdr
I wonder if when they say 2022 they might do selected races at the tail end of the 2021/22 season to get some racing miles under their belt. The 2023 thing is interesting, i wonder how Porsche and Audi are going to feel if Toyota or Peugeot win the centenary race..
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They said 22/23 season. So they'll only miss one 24hrs under the new regs. They're continuing with the winter season so I assume Summer of 2022 is when we will see the car presented. I'm sure spy shots will reveal it before that though. Remember that Le Mans is the season finale, so unless they want to do that in the first year (which I don't think competitors will like) they'll have to wait.
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13 Nov 2019, 20:43 (Ref:3940474)
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They said 22/23 season. So they'll only miss one 24hrs under the new regs. They're continuing with the winter season so I assume Summer of 2022 is when we will see the car presented. I'm sure spy shots will reveal it before that though. Remember that Le Mans is the season finale, so unless they want to do that in the first year (which I don't think competitors will like) they'll have to wait.
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No they won't, they will miss LM 2021 and LM 2022 under new regs, so two. Then they will only be eligible for 2023 and 2024 LM until being outlawed for 2025 LM (maybe grandfathered for that single year but that's not the same), at least if ACO doesn't screw up the regulations again
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13 Nov 2019, 21:14 (Ref:3940479)
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If peugoet did ask the ACO for two spots on the 2021 or 22 grid i can not see them being refused they are french and that is all they need.
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13 Nov 2019, 22:55 (Ref:3940490)
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Great they are coming back, always felt it was a shame when they left so suddenly prior to 2012
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14 Nov 2019, 03:43 (Ref:3940509)
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No they won't, they will miss LM 2021 and LM 2022 under new regs, so two. Then they will only be eligible for 2023 and 2024 LM until being outlawed for 2025 LM (maybe grandfathered for that single year but that's not the same), at least if ACO doesn't screw up the regulations again
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You're right. I counted wrong  That's the thing with these 'winter seasons'. Maybe the ACO will let them enter Spa and Le Mans in 2022, if the car is ready and the other competitors don't mind.
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