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15 Dec 2020, 15:47 (Ref:4023090)
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Is there a planned shakedown date for the 007?
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15 Dec 2020, 17:59 (Ref:4023113)
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15 Dec 2020, 18:07 (Ref:4023114)
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15 Dec 2020, 18:31 (Ref:4023117)
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Audi, Acura, Glikenhaus, Peugeot, Porsche and Toyota.
Have a nice christmas 
And some of those will be available to privateers. Feel like we are in the late 80's
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15 Dec 2020, 20:17 (Ref:4023137)
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Well even more good news, but having both audi and porsche back makes me think that VAG group does not seem to be functioning as a group.
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15 Dec 2020, 21:17 (Ref:4023145)
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Didn't seem to be a problem in '14-16.
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15 Dec 2020, 22:44 (Ref:4023159)
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Full Porsche announcement 15 minutes from this post.
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15 Dec 2020, 23:05 (Ref:4023161)
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Early Christmas present from Porsche. Full WEC and IMSA programmes plus likely future customer cars. Dream scenario.
https://presse.porsche.de/prod/press...sionid=1161442
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16 Dec 2020, 01:43 (Ref:4023174)
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Wow. If Ferrari do such an announcement, let's hope they will, there could be at Le Mans 2023 five manufacturers representing at least 47 wins (9 + 19 + 13 + 3 + 3 so far). With Bentley or Jaguar it could be perfect. Why not ?
This thread is well named.
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16 Dec 2020, 02:59 (Ref:4023183)
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Here's an interesting thought.
In 2021 all 3 LMH entrants say they'll have 2-cars each from the get go.
In 2023 just with all the 2021 players re-committing to the top class we'll likely have 10 different marques competing at Le Mans
Audi – LMDh
Porsche – LMDh
Peugeot – LMH
Toyota – LMH
Glickenhaus – LMH
ByKolles – LMH
Honda/Acura – LMDh (TBC)
GM - LMDh (TBC)
Mazda – LMDh (TBC)
Alpine – LMDh?
That could be around 25 cars even without other rumoured entrants like Ford, McLaren or Ferrari.
Do you think by 2023 ACO may decide to completely nix the Pro version of whatever GT class there will be? That would make the grid very "prototype-heavy". I'd rather facilitate the expansion of Hypercar completely at the expense of LMP2. Frankly, it'd be great if LMDh or perhaps some customer-friendly non-hybrid LMH cars completely took over the P2 marketplace. And then a Pro-Am subclass can be established within Hypercar, like ACO did for 2021 in LMP2.
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16 Dec 2020, 04:04 (Ref:4023186)
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16 Dec 2020, 05:58 (Ref:4023187)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GT6
Well even more good news, but having both audi and porsche back makes me think that VAG group does not seem to be functioning as a group.
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I think the opposite Simon ... Lmdh is the perfect formula for one car to be dressed up by two or more manufacturers from the same group. Yes they will look different and they will use different engines, but my bet is they will be based on the same chassis
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16 Dec 2020, 07:28 (Ref:4023190)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal
I think the opposite Simon ... Lmdh is the perfect formula for one car to be dressed up by two or more manufacturers from the same group. Yes they will look different and they will use different engines, but my bet is they will be based on the same chassis
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You could be right Mal, but I also wonder why with money tight in VAG group there seems to be no overall group position. But either way good news. Just had an email from the ACO they are very pleased with things but still no mention of ticket sales for 2021,
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16 Dec 2020, 07:54 (Ref:4023193)
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Join Date: Sep 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tique
Audi, Acura, Glikenhaus, Peugeot, Porsche and Toyota.
Have a nice christmas 
And some of those will be available to privateers. Feel like we are in the late 80's
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I would tend to think, ''any'' privateer cars from the OEM's, will be B SPEC, not exactly the same as the factory cars. Whether the regs allow this or not, that's IS how it will be.
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16 Dec 2020, 08:00 (Ref:4023194)
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Join Date: Sep 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal
I think the opposite Simon ... Lmdh is the perfect formula for one car to be dressed up by two or more manufacturers from the same group. Yes they will look different and they will use different engines, but my bet is they will be based on the same chassis
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The OEM's MUST use 1 of the 4 LMP2 constructors for the chassis and suspension for any LMDh.
That is what the regs say. But lets wait and see if there are ''technical amendments approved by both IMSA and the ACO, to benefit the OEM entries.
LMDH will very quickly become as LMP1 did, a spending formula. Where no privateer can compete with the factory teams. So please tell me where this is the wonderful ''new future of prototype racing? It's the same old with a new name, no more.
Last edited by truebeliever; 16 Dec 2020 at 08:02.
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