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11 Oct 2001, 05:57 (Ref:158943) | #1 | |
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BAR in Trouble
BAR is in trouble.
Moral is at an all time low and it doesn't help matters with Vill. going around telling people it sucks. Pollock has admited that things are bad. Rumours have it that they might not be here next year as BAR. |
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11 Oct 2001, 07:54 (Ref:158960) | #2 | ||
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Yep, I heard they had a loss of 20 million $ last year.........
Maybe the new Red Bull team?? |
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11 Oct 2001, 09:22 (Ref:158974) | #3 | ||
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BAR are in deep trouble at the moment, and this may be the best time for Honda to buy the team. BUT, with Sato joining Jordan, would Honda join forces with Jordan and give up a chance of having their own F1 team by taking over BAR?
If Honda decide on joining Jordan only as an engine supplier, then BAR will be up the duff, with no engine manufacturers wanting to enter in there near future (that VW thing has been round for ages now so I'll disregard that.) |
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11 Oct 2001, 11:30 (Ref:159007) | #4 | ||
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But everyone forgets BAR are equalling Jordan in the WCC this year. Jordan should be ashamed - they have been around for over a decade treading water and not moving forwards (distinctly backwards since 1999 in fact).
Jordan truly are the DC of teams with EJ's annual "next year we will be fighting for victories at every race" speech....no, honest, we will.... BAR may have low morale etc but they have already matched a team with over triple the experience. Additionally, BAR have a stronger driver line up for next year, my money is on them over Jordan and I think morale will improve when they move towards sealing the works Honda deal. |
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11 Oct 2001, 12:36 (Ref:159049) | #5 | ||
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BAR in trouble?
Is Ralf gunna drive for them next year? |
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11 Oct 2001, 12:41 (Ref:159054) | #6 | ||
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...and Ron Dennis their new boss. |
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11 Oct 2001, 12:44 (Ref:159055) | #7 | ||
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I've no problem with the drivers, I'm sure JV has still got it and OP is much better than usually given credit for. The engine should be OK. Its the rest of the package that seems to leave much to be desired.... It seemed to go downhill from the moment they dreamed up that ridiculous double-sponsorship colour-scheme!!
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11 Oct 2001, 15:36 (Ref:159117) | #8 | ||
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Serious reorganisation is needed at BAR, although if they're already developing next eyar's car they must be getting somewhere. I'm sure the car will be good and capable fo top 6 finishes, and with any luck Jacques will be back on form, as ahving frequently put last year's car where it shouldn't've been, he's been very lacklustre this season.
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11 Oct 2001, 17:22 (Ref:159200) | #9 | ||
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If BAR repeat what they did early this years, they should get out of F1. Ask EERO about the insides of BAR this year, what a lack of professionalism...
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11 Oct 2001, 22:31 (Ref:159397) | #12 | ||
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Originally posted by EERO
"I asked him, but he didn't know anything." You may not know anything, but you'll always be my EERO. |
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I8YO, If you start singing "The Wind Beneath my Wings", I will hunt you down and replace all of your CD's with Barry Manilow 8 tracks. |
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But I'm happy that I can remember that someone did it ! It was Dino IV (sounds logical). Here it is : http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=10002 Quote:
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