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Old 31 May 2022, 12:26 (Ref:4112207)   #46
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Good news! For me Donington is my favourite circuit for BTCC, so perfect to see the GP added on. And the first new circuit / configuration in a long time, since Silverstone Int never happened. I'm surprised the National has lasted so long, wish they could have a proper run on the whole circuit, but lots of reasons why that's not happening for the moment.

Echoing others, Thruxton I think was a poor choice for two rounds in terms of action, last weekend was pretty stagnant for BTCC standards.
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Old 31 May 2022, 12:34 (Ref:4112211)   #47
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A shame that Silverstone Int never happened, it would be good to see a new layout used. What about Oulton PK Fosters or Snetterton 200?
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Old 31 May 2022, 12:47 (Ref:4112214)   #48
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What about Oulton PK Fosters or Snetterton 200?
The last time they used Fosters, the racing was awful. I think Mr Gow has decided they won't return to that layout again.
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Old 31 May 2022, 13:12 (Ref:4112221)   #49
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The last time they used Fosters, the racing was awful. I think Mr Gow has decided they won't return to that layout again.

I think you're confusing Fosters and the International layout. The International layout was last used in 2014 and was widely derided.


The Fosters layout hasn't been used since the ST days, way back in 1999.
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Old 31 May 2022, 13:17 (Ref:4112223)   #50
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I think you're confusing Fosters and the International layout. The International layout was last used in 2014 and was widely derided.


The Fosters layout hasn't been used since the ST days, way back in 1999.
Yes - you're right. My mistake.

Would the Fosters layout be any better than Island?
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Old 31 May 2022, 13:22 (Ref:4112225)   #51
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Would the Fosters layout be any better than Island?

Probably not as you lose overtaking opportunity the Island hairpin provides. The advantage is does have is that the spectators situated at the most popular vantage points, the inside/outside of Knickerbrook, see more of the action as the races have more laps. The obvious downside is with the large crowds the BTCC typically gets at Oulton, the condensing of that crowd into a smaller area is going to make the existing probelms even worse. I can't see the BTCC going back to the Fosters layout in the near future.
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Old 31 May 2022, 13:54 (Ref:4112231)   #52
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It would be good to see the Silverstone International or even try out the 'Long National' which uses full Maggotts & Becketts corners, with a sharp right to 'The loop', which feeds back onto Wellington Straight. This layout means the International layout then can't be used at all over the full weekend, so potentially costs TOCA more £££
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Old 31 May 2022, 13:55 (Ref:4112232)   #53
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The last time they used Fosters, the racing was awful. I think Mr Gow has decided they won't return to that layout again.
yes , you probably have higher chances seeing Jordan at WSR than using that layout again
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Old 31 May 2022, 14:08 (Ref:4112236)   #54
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I'm sure Jordan would be back, but not at WSR. However I wouldn't rule out them using different layouts at Oulton
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Old 31 May 2022, 15:13 (Ref:4112252)   #55
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Nice to see a new layout that has not been used in a while.
They should try to utilise the other layouts on other circuits, The 10th round is also going to be a 2nd round on a existing circuit so why not change layouts for that round

It would be nice to have a new circuit to the calendar. Unless someone builds a brand new circuit or upgrades say Pembrey or Anglesey to the Standards required nowhere else the BTCC could go

Unless someone temporary circuit on an airfield or something

Utilize Other Layout more.

You know at Snetterton they have generally tried different things. We have had different qualifying formats we had that longer race several years back

Would it be possible to race on different layouts on the same weekend
say at Oulton Park you have Race 1 and 2 on the Island circuit while race 3 uses the shorter Fosters circuit
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Old 31 May 2022, 16:10 (Ref:4112261)   #56
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It would be good to see the Silverstone International or even try out the 'Long National' which uses full Maggotts & Becketts corners, with a sharp right to 'The loop', which feeds back onto Wellington Straight. This layout means the International layout then can't be used at all over the full weekend, so potentially costs TOCA more £££
makes no difference to toca
toca dont pay for the circuit
the circuit pays toca
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Old 31 May 2022, 16:12 (Ref:4112262)   #57
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could always do knockhill anti clockwise, gow is petrified of 30 cars at full chat into a downhill hairpin, also downhill into clarks and driving of a cliff at chicane
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say at Oulton Park you have Race 1 and 2 on the Island circuit while race 3 uses the shorter Fosters circuit
Aside from the logistical issues of redeploying marshals, I suspect there may some MSUK regulations that prevent a single race meeting being run on multiple layout.

Only time I can think that a meeting would have been held on multiple layout would have been at Rockingham where they had Ascar/Pickups on the oval and other races on the infield layout. The difference there was that you didn't have the same series using both layouts during the day.
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Old 31 May 2022, 16:41 (Ref:4112274)   #59
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Aside from the logistical issues of redeploying marshals, I suspect there may some MSUK regulations that prevent a single race meeting being run on multiple layout.

Only time I can think that a meeting would have been held on multiple layout would have been at Rockingham where they had Ascar/Pickups on the oval and other races on the infield layout. The difference there was that you didn't have the same series using both layouts during the day.
Technically this happened last weekend at the Nurburgring with some of the supports taking place on the GP loop. But a bit different to the BTCC's situation!

Also would be a bit annoying if you pitched up your day's setup down by hairpin, to find you'll be watching an empty road come the third race!
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Old 31 May 2022, 17:51 (Ref:4112289)   #60
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Donington is one of the most boring tracks on the calender along with Silverstone. No idea why they'd want to go there twice.
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