[BTCC] BTCC 2023 season discussion, News and Rumours!

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by redshoes

Bring back the night race
Hold a street race
Hold a race at Prembry/Anglesey/etc
Have an entry from Volvo/Nissan/Renault/etc

I expect it will be the old favourites

Congratulations! The full set! None of the above possible!! Buy a Delorean and journey back to 1999!!!

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by redshoes

Bring back the night race
Hold a street race
Hold a race at Prembry/Anglesey/etc
Have an entry from Volvo/Nissan/Renault/etc

I expect it will be the old favourites

No outcry about the fragile toe-links?

[BTCC frog]

I'd like to see:

A revisement of the performance balancing measures to include 2021-level success ballast in qualifying and in race two only, and nothing in races one and three.

Prize money awarded for championship positions so that teams are more inclined to sign good drivers rather than those with money.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by BTCC frog

I'd like to see:

A revisement of the performance balancing measures to include 2021-level success ballast in qualifying and in race two only, and nothing in races one and three.

Prize money awarded for championship positions so that teams are more inclined to sign good drivers rather than those with money.

And where exactly does this money come from?

[AnnoyedMoose]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

And where exactly does this money come from?

Well presumably someone is making money out of it with the size of the gates and the TV deals?

[auroan]

Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

Well presumably someone is making money out of it with the size of the gates and the TV deals?

Entry fees from teams and sponsorship/TV deals cover the cost of the TOCA team and business. Gate fees and circuit hire (paid by TOCA via BARC) covers the cost of the circuits.

After those two main groups are covered, there is very little to zero left for a prize fund.

That one off £250K Matt Neal one in the super tourer days, in the Primera was an insurance backed thing as no one really believed it would happen.

[crmalcolm]

Regardless of whether there is enough money for a prize fund or not, I can't see it working as a model for BTCC teams.

Firstly, in the current context of TBLs, teams have to have a more reliable source of funds to cover their exposure.
Secondly, what guarantee does a good driver have that they will deliver results.

If I look at last year's grid. Lloyd (for example) would be considered by many as being a talented driver. But what prize money would he have gained coming 10th in the championship?
And would that have gone anywhere near covering the repair bills through the season?

I think the biggest risk is that the prize money would only lead to a fixed grid order, rather than mixing it up. If a team is relying on prize money to fund a significant part of their entry, then that needs to be a healthy sum all the way down to 29th place. Working up from that, the prize money at the front of the grid would need to be huge in comparison.

Once certain teams are swallowing up such huge sums of money, the midfield teams have no chance of catching up.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

Well presumably someone is making money out of it with the size of the gates and the TV deals?

And how much does ITV pay? Its not F1....

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

And how much does ITV pay? Its not F1....

To be fair, does ITV actually pay for the BTCC?
I've often wondered if the TV coverage is 'all part of the package' to make the series attractive to potential sponsors.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

To be fair, does ITV actually pay for the BTCC?
I've often wondered if the TV coverage is 'all part of the package' to make the series attractive to potential sponsors.

I would doubt ITV pays TOCA anything Without the TV deal the Championship would die inside 3 seasons

[kipper]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

I would doubt ITV pays TOCA anything Without the TV deal the Championship would die inside 3 seasons

I concur. Given that one of the reasons that the championships are moving to the GT package is because the TV is cheaper, it is likely that ITV aren't funding the coverage.

Ticket revenue is also retained by the circuits (although I don't believe that TOCA pays circuit hire fees).

[Ant25]

Can’t believe nothing has been leaked!

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by Ant25

Can’t believe nothing has been leaked!

To be fair thats how it should be. Although from what I can see there's still not much to leak.

[S griffin]

I was expecting more by now, so maybe we are in for a surprise or two.

[porsche962fan]

it's one of the most underwhelming silly seasons