IMSA 2022: Looking to the present? - Page 21

tomcug · 16 Jun 2022, 19:19 (Ref:4115951)

Oh, it took me some time to find this

Turns out there's a minimum drive-time of 30 minutes for the DPi category. So in that case just 2 drivers actually driving would result in the car being moved to the rear of the finishing order.

broadrun96 · 16 Jun 2022, 20:17 (Ref:4115967)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Not proposing a (last minute) driver change, just posting the question whether teams are allowed to use only 2 of their 3 listed drivers. Since it's a Pro class and (assumingly) driving times don't matter, why can't a team elect to 'bench' one of their listed drivers if it feels it brings an advantage to them? I'm just curious, not truly expecting any team to do so if allowed.

United announced they're skipping this race because their pay driver is having delayed back surgery. Petit is iffy also.

I would guess until the start of the event they'd have that freedom, think once the event opens they're stuck with benching being one stint. I think drive time minimum rules apply only for enduros since I thought I remembered something about a Pro class rule allowing a single lap to count, but it's been hot and my brain ain't great lately.

**joeb** · 17 Jun 2022, 00:26 (Ref:4115987)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

I would guess until the start of the event they'd have that freedom, think once the event opens they're stuck with benching being one stint. I think drive time minimum rules apply only for enduros since I thought I remembered something about a Pro class rule allowing a single lap to count, but it's been hot and my brain ain't great lately.

Yes they may be required to run, but the organizers are pretty lenient if a situation arises. For instance if someone gets sick or hurt and can't physically drive then that's okay.

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Coach Ep · 17 Jun 2022, 13:20 (Ref:4116071)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcug

Oh, it took me some time to find this

Turns out there's a minimum drive-time of 30 minutes for the DPi category. So in that case just 2 drivers actually driving would result in the car being moved to the rear of the finishing order.

Thanks. And interesting. Not what I expected for a Pro class (even more so when you look at GTD Pro).

**joeb** · 24 Jun 2022, 15:12 (Ref:4116825)

IMSA has opened up as to why there have been so many dpi bop adjustments this year.

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/i...t-adjustments/

Basically, last year with 3 manufacturers they wanted to not mess about too much, but this year GM and Honda have agreed that looking at bop on a track by track basis might make the most sense. These cars have been running for years at the same tracks and IMSA has the data to be able to determine where one manufacturer is stronger than the others and try to even things out.

tomcug · 24 Jun 2022, 16:41 (Ref:4116837)

Per-track BOP certainly makes sense as these cars have different strengths and weaknesses (well, if Caddys have any of these

). However the outcome is too random. We had a decent fight for the win at Belle Isle between the 01 Caddy and the 60 Acura, while Laguna Seca was an Acura snoozefest

**joeb** · 24 Jun 2022, 23:28 (Ref:4116871)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcug

Per-track BOP certainly makes sense as these cars have different strengths and weaknesses (well, if Caddys have any of these

). However the outcome is too random. We had a decent fight for the win at Belle Isle between the 01 Caddy and the 60 Acura, while Laguna Seca was an Acura snoozefest

I suppose all the data in the world on these cars helps but in the end if track conditions are different you might get a different response. Also there are still set up choices to make and teams can make different choices which can have different outcomes given the track and conditions.

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tomcug · 25 Jun 2022, 11:49 (Ref:4116892)

Of course and I'm not saying IMSA is doing that on purpose. I'm sure they're giving their best to balance these two cars, it's just that BOP in general is a very very difficult job. At least unlike WEC, they try

veeten · 25 Jun 2022, 16:46 (Ref:4116919)

then, take into effect, when the new LMDh/GTP chassis's come. By Daytona there will be a lot of information between the new and the older cars, if they're looking to keep them around for '23.

broadrun96 · 25 Jun 2022, 18:30 (Ref:4116931)

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Originally Posted by veeten

then, take into effect, when the new LMDh/GTP chassis's come. By Daytona there will be a lot of information between the new and the older cars, if they're looking to keep them around for '23.

The new cars replace DPi, all the current teams have new GTP cars. The older cars will be sold off and in Historic Racing within a year

gert · 25 Jun 2022, 19:31 (Ref:4116935)

Shank Acura on pole @ Watkins Glen.

Pretty sure they will find a way (at least once) to screw up strategy and/or make stupid mistakes on track like they do 98% of the times and then be surprised they come up second best to the other Acura.

J Jay · 26 Jun 2022, 15:48 (Ref:4117017)

Taking the current FCY time from the run time, we're now up to a maximum of 5 Hours of the Glen.

We're only 68 minutes into the race.

gert · 26 Jun 2022, 15:51 (Ref:4117018)

That race just hasn't started, has it ?

J Jay · 26 Jun 2022, 15:58 (Ref:4117020)

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Originally Posted by gert

That race just hasn't started, has it ?

Let's put it this way - if you've just tuned in now (to see the #6 doing a Kolles), you've missed ~10 minutes of green.

gert · 26 Jun 2022, 16:02 (Ref:4117021)

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Originally Posted by J Jay

Let's put it this way - if you've just tuned in now (to see the #6 doing a Kolles), you've missed ~10 minutes of green.

No no, sorry to be so unclear.

I was in time for the green flag, but that race only goes from yellow to the next yellow...

J Jay · 26 Jun 2022, 16:04 (Ref:4117022)

Ah, I get you. No worries.

As much as it's funny to meme on LMP3, it has been a long time since the engine in one gave up.

Simmi · 26 Jun 2022, 16:05 (Ref:4117023)

P3s making their presence felt.

J Jay · 26 Jun 2022, 16:07 (Ref:4117024)

Edit - Nope, I am wrong.

gert · 26 Jun 2022, 16:12 (Ref:4117025)

Why do they have a Dacia as a safety car?
(Man that one is ugly)

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And now we have an LMP3 in 5th overall?

gert · 26 Jun 2022, 16:21 (Ref:4117026)

Let's do another lap of yellow ...

Mike E · 26 Jun 2022, 16:22 (Ref:4117027)

I really struggle to watch these IMSA races. Caution is the word.

gert · 26 Jun 2022, 16:23 (Ref:4117029)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

I really struggle to watch these IMSA races. Caution is the word.

When they're racing, it's great.
When they're not, it's anything but ...

gert · 26 Jun 2022, 16:24 (Ref:4117030)

JJ was asleep and immediately loses all the positions made up by the good pit work

And now Mr. Nascar has been overtaken by the leading LMP2.

J Jay · 26 Jun 2022, 16:34 (Ref:4117032)

That's an unusual crash for Lars Kern. I hope he's okay.

gert · 26 Jun 2022, 18:21 (Ref:4117040)

@Seb Montoya: that was unnecessary!

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