Montoya 1.3 sec. faster than TGF in the rain at Jerez. Does it mean something?

[zetta]

According to the Williams website, Montoya, testing on the FW 25, clocked 1.24.003, while TGF on the F2003GA did only 1.25.324 in the rain soaked Jerez circuit. Does this mean anyhing, or is it "just testing"?

[Mr V]

Just testing i reckon, althouth i do believe that JPM has what it takes in the wet.

[Sodemo]

Yeah, it means that TGF is a broom and that Juan Pablo Montoya is going to wipe the floor with Schumacher this year, and use his F2003GA as the bucket.

[KC]

I think it merely means that JPM was faster than MS in the rain at Jerez on that day.

[Damon]

Possibly slightly wishful thinking there Monster, but here's hopeing. I agree with mr v, that it's a mixture of 'just testing' and the fact that JPM is actually very quick in the wet.

[Sato san]

thats right !.......Juan has plenty of ability in different condition , but testing means bugger all most of the time .

[Red]

Well, I do believe that it means that according to BMW web site Schumacher scored 1:25.324 and JP Montoya scored 1:28.537

[Mr V]

Rafe for WDC then

[daviopolo]

I assure you that Montoya is not as good as Schumacher(both) for that matter in the wet, have a closer look at the times too the fastest recently is a 1.18 by Badoer the cars went out at different times of the day Luca was there today also trying out the F2003ga for size. He did one installation lap before a proper go tomorrow, I'm sure they rely more on Luca than Rubens in such circumstances as shaking down new cars and testing. As for Michael him being slower than Montoya in the wet is wishful thinking by the dreamers.

[BD]

We go through this every year.
Testing is testing. If it were qualifying it would mean something different.
Montoya is fantastic in the wet though. But so is Schumacher.

[Mr V]

Originally posted by daviopolo
I assure you that Montoya is not as good as Schumacher(both) for that matter in the wet,

Did you watch the silverstone race last season?

[kuchi]

Originally posted by KC
I think it merely means that JPM was faster than MS in the rain at Jerez on that day.

Yes, that is what it means, good assumption KC.

[Jay]

Yeah, I think KC has it. I always find it funny how people try to make one test session into the World Championship.

[Damon]

Come on davio, look at that vid of Silverstone. When they were all on slicks in the opening laps JPM was outpacing Schu and left Ralf for dead.

Alternatively have a look back at some of his Cart races, he was without equal on cold tyres and astonishing in the wet.

[Jay]

Yeah, Montoya was pretty good in the wet in Cart. Great at getting it sideways and saving it. And those cars are more difficult to drive in the wet!

[Guy Goddard2]

The hard word from Ferrari is that Micheal forgot the new car had more than three gears.

[slicktoast]

Yes, it means something.

[JR27]

hmmmmm...I'm confused, but nothing new there......I just got off the Juan's website www.jpmontoya.com and according to their report Juan's best time was much slower than Michael's in both the F2003-GA and the F2002. Found the same info on the BMW-Williams and Autosport sites as well (about 3+ seconds faster than the Williams)....yet the F1-Planet site has Juan in the 1.24's (the other sites had his best at a 1:27.99) which put him about a second and change faster than the Ferrari.........gee golly gee...could it be that just possibly that some/all of the info put on the various F1 sites can be suspect? Who would have thunk that?

I agree with everyone else...it's just testing...tires, fuel loads, test program particulars, weather, and zillion other variables come to play.....we will have a much better "understanding" of it all in a couple of weeks time.....

Murph

[Armco Bender]

All testing times are B/S....No one has ever won a GP testing..

[J.McClane]

"Montoya 1.3 sec. faster than TGF in the rain at Jerez. Does it mean something? "


Yes, it means that Montoya was 1.3 sec. faster than TGF in the rain at Jerez.

[Lee Janotta]

Doesn't mean a damn thing, but Juan Pablo _is_ a magnificent wet-weather racer.

[zetta]

Just before I posted this, I read the results at the Williams website. They changed them later, correcting Montoya's time. But now, in PlanetF1, the 1.24.003 time for Montoya is brought up again, (see "Montoya beats Schumacher in Spain" in PlanetF1). I don't know if this is true or not, but it's the same time that the Williams website posted earlier, and then changed.

[corkholio]

It doesn't really matter all that much anyway. The chances of the majority of the 16 races being run in the rain is minimal and they don't even race at Jerez. Plus you don't know what they are testing anyway. I doubt too many teams test for speed in the wet.

[Guy Goddard2]

Originally posted by corkholio
It doesn't really matter all that much anyway.

Exactly

[Armco Bender]

Tim Newton (Test Team Manager)
"The weather has been kinder to us here in Italy than our other test team in Jerez! Here we have been able to carry out some good work with Marc driving a development of last year's FW24. Despite the rain Juan Pablo has managed a decent number of laps in Spain however, which will also have produced some good data for us"
Jerez Times
Driver Team/Engine Time Laps

M Schumacher Ferrari (F2003GA) 1:25.324 18/19
M Schumacher Ferrari (F2002) 1:26.064 27/36
JP Montoya WilliamsF1 BMW 1:28.537 48/64