BTCC teams to run SCV8 cars.

[Super Tourer]

Team Dynamics, Team Varta and VLR have signed for the new SCV8 Series.

Dynamics have elected to use the Jaguar bodyshell, with Varta choosing the Vectra, and VLR a Peugoet 407 body.

These look to be plans in addition to the BTCC, not instead of before panic sets in !

Details here:http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=25145&s=14

[FIRE]

Is there a official SCV8 website?

[kmchow]

Really? I've always been under the impression that these teams were committed and financially stretched to race in the BTCC. Now, they are fielding teams in the SCV8? Could this mean they may jump before the BTCC season starts. The '04 BTCC season hasn't started so they could still jump over? Or at least in the very near future?

[Craig]

I'd be very surprised to see at least one of the teams mentioned in the BTCC next season anyway.

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

That would be Varta then Craig?

Well to be honest with you, you'll be lucky if SCV8 works out anyway! Another series the country does not need.

[Craig]

I won't elaborate on my earlier comment. And I'll not go into details of why either.

[KA]

Originally posted by kmchow
Really? I've always been under the impression that these teams were committed and financially stretched to race in the BTCC. Now, they are fielding teams in the SCV8? Could this mean they may jump before the BTCC season starts. The '04 BTCC season hasn't started so they could still jump over? Or at least in the very near future?

It's an interesting development, both in terms of SCV8 and next year's BTCC- presumably these teams must have either a new sponsor for an SCV8 programme who wasn't interested in BTCC, and existing one who wished to either cross over to the new series or extend their involvement, or have paying drivers who've brought sponsorship for their SCV8 programmes

So could SCV8 be something that will affect the BTCC next season?

[KA]

Originally posted by Sim_Da_BTCC_Man
That would be Varta then Craig?

Well to be honest with you, you'll be lucky if SCV8 works out anyway! Another series the country does not need.

3 current BTCC teams making plans to do it does give it more credibility than it had when it was first announced- maybe this one is going to be viable after all....

[racingdad]

I read elsewhere that it was Varta, VLR & Dynamics - but have no personal evidence either way.

[El_Gibleto]

Well if "team varta" are racing in SCV8 I hope the scruteneers check the engine seals very closely and at regular intervals after they were found to be deliberatly running ineligible engines in the btcc.

[racingdad]

Originally posted by racingdad
I read elsewhere that it was Varta, VLR & Dynamics - but have no personal evidence either way.

See Autosport online for confirmation of Varta, VLR & Dymanics.

[Jonny Apex]

Could be, of course, that the teams mentioned will merely build the cars for other teams. As a commercial operation, if you like, although Craig has effectively said that Varta won't be in the BTCC next year ...

[KA]

Originally posted by El_Gibleto
Well if "team varta" are racing in SCV8 I hope the scruteneers check the engine seals very closely and at regular intervals after they were found to be deliberatly running ineligible engines in the btcc.

I'd guess that kind of thing will be under very close scrutiny- otherwise there's no point in everyone being supplied with the same engine package....

[KA]

Originally posted by Jonny Apex
Could be, of course, that the teams mentioned will merely build the cars for other teams. As a commercial operation, if you like, although Craig has effectively said that Varta won't be in the BTCC next year ...

If I've understood this correctly, the way it appears to work is that if VLR, Varta and TD have bought into the franchises to build the cars, then they can each sell up to 2 of the 4 they'll build to other teams- they'll still need to run 2 themselves though

The way the franchise works is mentioned in this article from a couple of months back when Honda approved the use of the Accord -

http://www.pistonheads.com/motorspor...p?storyId=7203

[racingdad]

Originally posted by El_Gibleto
Well if "team varta" are racing in SCV8 I hope the scruteneers check the engine seals very closely and at regular intervals after they were found to be deliberatly running ineligible engines in the btcc.

I think you'll find that Team Varta have not been found guilty of deliberately running ineligible engines - that would b e a major thing and would probably have led to them being excluded totally. They were found to have an anomally in the pistons in one engine at one (possibly two) meetings. Not quite the same thing and something that can happen at an engine builders.

[JimW]

Well to be honest with you, you'll be lucky if SCV8 works out anyway! Another series the country does not need.

Actually I suspect that these might be just what we do need, preferably in substitution for some other boring, processional, poorly supported series which ought to have been shot long ago. (and No, I'm not going to identify my candidates for that. )

Reports from friends who have seen Andy Rouse testing one of the cars suggest that this could lead to racing. Just at the moment we need more of that.

Yes, I do accept that endless new formulae tend to dilute the money and hence numbers and support, I'm just arguing that this looks a good candidate for success. It needs the numbers though. Perhaps they ought to be content to run with another series until numbers get to, say, 20?

Regards

Jim

[Neil Adams]

both team dynamics and vlr have entrys in motorsport other than the btcc so their invovlment with the scv8 wouldn't harm their btcc entry.

Plus dynamics have bought to ex works civics for 04
and Vlr probably want to get the potentional out of those 307s.

no sure about varta they did originally say they where entering a four car team for the 04 btcc, but its all gone a bit quite and the websites gone.

[racingdad]

Varta were also supposed to be doing something with Xcel in the Clio Winter Series leading to a funded drive in the BTCC - Xcel sold their 4 cars, so that's obviously not happening. Maybe Xcel will run Varta's cars in the SCV8 series???

[SALEEN S7R]

Originally posted by FIRE
Is there a official SCV8 website?

Yep there is, although its still a work in progress. www.scv8.co.uk

[gttouring]

This NASCAR/Aussie V8Supercar hybrid may be a big stumbler if they can get their act together, with soo many touring car type series running how does anyone think to stand out? ASCAR should take a dive, and let the SCV8 do the ovals as well, they use similar engines and chassis don't they?

[FIRE]

Originally posted by SALEEN S7R
Yep there is, although its still a work in progress. www.scv8.co.uk

www.scv8.co.ukSite currently under development by MSO for launch during October.

They have only 2 days to complete...

Thanks for the link!

[andy_b]

mso do quite a few drivers sites including Wilson and McNish, so probably look similar

[KA]

According to Autosport, Steve Neal is looking 'for drivers with budgets' (who isn't these days....?), so it looks as if nothings signed and sealed on that front yet

[touringlegend]

The only problem I see about SCV8 is that people will put it down with no reason except that they are BTCC fans and don't want to see it hard done by.. OK it may be that "other series we don't need", but maybe it is that special one that we do need?

But at the end of the day, it'll be the fans who determine which is more succesful. If the SCV8 series is mega succesful it isn't because of some silly magic-ness, it's down to those thousands of feet that could be walking through a circuit gate..

[Spaced Invader]

Originally posted by touringlegend
The only problem I see about SCV8 is that people will put it down with no reason except that they are BTCC fans and don't want to see it hard done by.. OK it may be that "other series we don't need", but maybe it is that special one that we do need?

But at the end of the day, it'll be the fans who determine which is more succesful. If the SCV8 series is mega succesful it isn't because of some silly magic-ness, it's down to those thousands of feet that could be walking through a circuit gate..

spot on. what this country is crying out for is a tin top series to rival that of the DTM and Aussie V8 series. i will be watching and praying that the SCV8 is a success, but can also run along side the BTCC without comparisons.