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Old 24 Jun 2012, 09:20 (Ref:3097048)   #1
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Seeeking detail pics of Gp2 Capri RS2600 and RS3100.

Any pics or links would help, building a Gp2 car and need as much info on the rear suspension as I can find. Lots available on the Escorts, can't find much on the Capris (although there seems to be quite a bit carried over). Any help appreciated!
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Old 27 Jun 2012, 14:53 (Ref:3098976)   #2
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Sounds like we have something in common! Made contact with one of the original Capri racers [actually bought an Atlas Axle from him,all the right bits in it] Just waiting for a compilation of photos on the very subject
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Old 28 Jun 2012, 08:10 (Ref:3099287)   #3
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Thanks Terence.

I run the Barbados Historic Rally Carnival. David Rayner competed last year in a Tiger but he owns an RS2600 Safari car and has sent me several homologation forms. E-mail me at greg at huzier dot com and I'll send them to you. The Safari scrutineer has also sent me some period pics they used for eligibility I can send you. Gordon Spice is also doing some research for me (he only drove GpA cars) so I should have more soon.

My biggest dilemma at this point is deciding between an RS2600 and an RS3100; I'm leaning toward the latter.

I'll be at Goodwood on Sunday, hopefully there will be Capris there..
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Old 28 Jun 2012, 09:31 (Ref:3099320)   #4
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PS Do you know the source of your axle exactly? I'd like to measure/copy a Broadspeed axle if I could find one.
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Old 28 Jun 2012, 12:31 (Ref:3099400)   #5
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Gentlemen,

The April 2010 issue of German magazine 'Powerslide' (issue #05) may be of interest to you as it has an 11-page in-depth feature on the 3100RS Capri in their 'Cars in Detail' series. The feature includes cutaway artworks, detail drawings & photographs etc.

You can probably get a back issue via their website: www.powerslide-mag.de (hope that doesn't break any rules!).
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Group 2 detailed pics

Hi Guys. I am also in the process of building a group 2 Capri clone and would be willing to purchase some pics if available.Mine is going to be a late 72. Thanks
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Old 3 Jul 2012, 09:09 (Ref:3101197)   #8
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Hi All,

Don't have photos of the Capri's but do have Front upright assy for 72 spec Koln
Gp2 Capri, perfect for any proper replica!!
These are the same as Gp2 and Gp5 Zakspeed Escorts
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Old 3 Jul 2012, 11:04 (Ref:3101241)   #9
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Plenty on e-bay as well I'm afraid.
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Gentlemen,

The April 2010 issue of German magazine 'Powerslide' (issue #05) may be of interest to you as it has an 11-page in-depth feature on the 3100RS Capri in their 'Cars in Detail' series. The feature includes cutaway artworks, detail drawings & photographs etc.

You can probably get a back issue via their website: www.powerslide-mag.de (hope that doesn't break any rules!).
Thanks John. Any chance you could e-mail scans to me? Found navigating the website difficult with my non-existent knowledge of German.
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Old 4 Jul 2012, 19:29 (Ref:3102098)   #11
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Hi Guys. I am also in the process of building a group 2 Capri clone and would be willing to purchase some pics if available.Mine is going to be a late 72. Thanks
So that means RS2600, RS3100 wasn't until '74.

E-mail me at greg - at - huzier.com and I'll send you the homologation forms and bits I've found so far.
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Old 15 Jul 2012, 07:20 (Ref:3106535)   #12
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Whilst [trying] to remove the much too short studs from my front hubs,trying as in there was not enough room between the two mounting faces,I suddenly realised why there are four short bolts around the centre of the hub,it is in fact two sections! Very nicely machined but seems an awful lot of work just to get the later type vented disc's on! Anyone seen this before please.




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Old 15 Jul 2012, 09:48 (Ref:3106572)   #13
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Hi Terence, These are RS3100 hubs, (the silver bit with a standard disc brake mount added to it). On my Capri racers I use these hubs with an alloy bell to mount the disc to it.
I think they may have come from a Granada??





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Hi Terence, These are RS3100 hubs, (the silver bit with a standard disc brake mount added to it). On my Capri racers I use these hubs with an alloy bell to mount the disc to it.
I think they may have come from a Granada??Cheers, Carl
Granada hubs were five stud I believe....
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Hi Terence, These are RS3100 hubs, (the silver bit with a standard disc brake mount added to it). On my Capri racers I use these hubs with an alloy bell to mount the disc to it.
I think they may have come from a Granada??





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Many thanks Carl,like I said it was more out of curiosity than anything else,at least I was told the truth when I bought the car. It currently has the [same] discs as you have,but I'm going up in size with them. What are your calipers,I see they are alloy but are they ATE or Dunlop please.
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Old 15 Jul 2012, 11:30 (Ref:3106620)   #16
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Terence, The calipers are AP/Lockeed CP2279 44.5mm dia bores.
Very common in historic racing in Aus.
We are restricted to 13 inch wheels, so cannot go bigger.



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It may be relevant to point out that the Group 2 Capri ran centre locks. This was the case from the early 2300 to the post 1976 MkII/III.

My Group 1 Capri MkIII runs AP calipers. The standard front brake set up for the Group 1 cars was the Granada vented disc and caliper.

The Group 2 cars ran 15" wheels and thus bigger brakes and calipers. I recommend anyone who is interested to get hold of the Homologation Certificate. All the information being discussed is in there in FIA stamped pictures.
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Old 15 Jul 2012, 16:45 (Ref:3106712)   #18
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Thanks again Carl,looks nicely sorted. I have some 15 inch wheels on order so obviously the wheels reflect the size of the brakes.Getting all of the 'bit's' together,slowly!.At least I have now finished the shell prepping,lightening ans stiffening,have a superb roll cage being made just 10 minutes away from our England house,convenient for when we get back.
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Hi All,

I have just finished these off and shipped to a customer in Europe.

Photos of Gp2 RS 2600 (72 Works Spec) as promised.

These were also used on Gp2 and Gp5 Zakspeed Escort and Gp5 Zakspeed Capri.

The 73 and 74 Works capris ran different hub Hub/Upright Assemblies in both those years.

So 3 years 3 different Alloy Hub/Upright Assy. At least on the Works cars.

In NZ we are lucky enough to have an Original 72, 73 and 74 Works Gp2 Capris and a Zakspeed Gp5 Escort.

Will post photos of the 73 spec items soon.

Many parts have had to be remanufactured.

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Bet you can't wait to try and find replacements,LoL. Thanks for the pictures though,they look very nice.
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Hi Terence,

We build these in NZ.

Can't get them from Ford!!!
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Hmmmm,tell me more!
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Hi Terence,

The Original items on all the cars here were Magnesium and old not a good combo!!

We race the cars here so needed to reproduce these parts and many others.

I have a pair of Alloy units on my Zakspeed but have just finished off a pair of Mag units and will fit them for the upcoming season.

Photo of Leg in Escort, this is the same as the 72 Capri.

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The Gp.2 Capri ran 4 stud wheels up to 1973 (RS2600) in 13" and 15", then in 1974 (RS3100) they switched to centrelock. I am also building a Gp.2 Capri clone, and manufacturing the BBS wheel centres at the moment which are NLA. Brakes were ATE on the original factory cars, but AP calipers were also homologated.

As Peter Mallett said, get hold of the relevant homologation docs, it is all in there in (badly photocopied) black and blue
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Brain teaser for you.

The top pic is the '74 Group 2 Capri (note cooling pipes for radiators in wheel arches).

The bottom pic is a standard Capri.

Note the inner wheel arches on the racer have been replaced, probably with something from the Ford parts bin in 1973. My 1967/8 Allan mann escort built by Gomm used Transit inner wheel arches so I know this was relatively common practice.

Can anyone identify the inner arches in the pic?



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