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Old 7 Mar 2004, 17:48 (Ref:897243)   #1
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I thought it was 'Pan-TA-no' and 'Kleen'. But the ITV lot pronounced them 'PAN - t'n - o' and 'Klee - uhn'. It took them a while to decide on how to pronounce 'Raikkonen', though, so who knows?
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 18:01 (Ref:897251)   #2
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I thought it was 'Pan-TA-no' as well :confused:
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 18:48 (Ref:897294)   #3
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 19:07 (Ref:897305)   #4
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I have trouble pronouncing "Allen" - it always comes out wrong...
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 19:22 (Ref:897318)   #5
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Christian Klien's surname is pronounced to rhyme with clean as opposed to the more common spelling of Klein Austria/Germany which is pronounced to rhyme with line.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 19:33 (Ref:897328)   #6
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Christian Klien's surname is pronounced to rhyme with clean as opposed to the more common spelling of Klein Austria/Germany which is pronounced to rhyme with line.
If he wins a race I can see the Autosport headline now - "Christian Kliens up the opposition".
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 19:37 (Ref:897331)   #7
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I have to say my four year old lad, who's mad on F1 immediately called him Pants-tano and laughed.

Trust that isn't prophetic for him!

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Old 7 Mar 2004, 21:03 (Ref:897401)   #8
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It used to be the same with Senna, sometimes it was AIRton and other times it was EYE-AIRton
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 21:06 (Ref:897409)   #9
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With Senna it was a case of people getting it wrong. His name was Eye-air-ton.

Likewise, the current world champion is Meek-eye-l not Mike-ul.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 21:09 (Ref:897413)   #10
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Christian Klien's surname is pronounced to rhyme with clean as opposed to the more common spelling of Klein Austria/Germany which is pronounced to rhyme with line.
I thought it was klee-en two sylables.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 21:12 (Ref:897415)   #11
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Apparently Italian stations are calling him PAN - ta - no so maybe they were almost right about that.
I've wondered about Michael, too. But Ralf calls him Mike - ul, at least when speaking English.
And is the 'ch' maybe pronounced as in 'loch'?
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 21:16 (Ref:897421)   #12
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The ch in Schumacher is like in loch.

We Scots can manage it but the English call him Schu-mack-er.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 22:02 (Ref:897479)   #13
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And is the 'ch' maybe pronounced as in 'loch'?
I reckon, by the rest of the grid, its pronounced "WE ARE NOT WORTHY!!!"
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 22:12 (Ref:897488)   #14
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The ch in Schumacher is like in loch.

We Scots can manage it but the English call him Schu-mack-er.
Correct.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 22:14 (Ref:897489)   #15
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I thought it was klee-en two sylables.
Yes, this is correct. An even better, more "Austrian"/south German pronounciation, is klee-an.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 22:25 (Ref:897502)   #16
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It used to be the same with Senna, sometimes it was AIRton and other times it was EYE-AIRton
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With Senna it was a case of people getting it wrong. His name was Eye-air-ton.

Likewise, the current world champion is Meek-eye-l not Mike-ul.
In Brazilian Portuguese it is Ah-eer-tõn.

"Ah" is an open "a", definitely NOT sounding like "ä" (in German) or "è" (in French). For example, David Hobbs pronounces "Ärtun" - this is wrong. James Hunt used to pronouce something like "Aeewrt'n", which is not correct either.

The stress is on "eer".

"Ah" and "eer" are pronounced tightly together but with distinctive sounds. This is a typical "Brazilian trick" that foreigners usually take some time to master.

Also, the final "ton" is pronouncedly nasal - another particularity of the Portuguese variant spoken in Brazil.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 22:25 (Ref:897503)   #17
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I have trouble pronouncing "Allen" - it always comes out wrong...
Me too. I can't help beginning with a 'T' sound. Weird.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 22:39 (Ref:897517)   #18
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i think we should have an f1-fans-vs-james-allen website, much like the www.f1fansvschannel9.com, where we grade james allen on his performance on each GP
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Old 8 Mar 2004, 02:01 (Ref:897624)   #19
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I thought it was klee-en two sylables.
When chatting to Christian and his fellow countryman Bernhard Auinger at the Pau GP last year I asked him about his name and he said Klien (clean) so I'll stick with what I was told by the boy himself
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Old 8 Mar 2004, 02:32 (Ref:897627)   #20
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yep you pronunce klien exactly like clean
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Michael Schumacher is pronounced "Really bloody fast"
Christian Klien is pronounced "Not all that fast"
Giorgio Pantano is pronounced "Pretty bloody slow, really"
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I've noticed that Martin Brundle sometimes seems to have trouble pronouncing DC's name.

Sometimes it's CoultHard others it's Coult-ard.

Being his manager, i thought Martin would know his own drivers name by now
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Old 8 Mar 2004, 07:50 (Ref:897742)   #23
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And I thought Franchetti was
Fran-Ketty

But when Dario did a little "Hi i'm Dario..." on channel ten he said "Fran-Kee-tee"...
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Old 8 Mar 2004, 08:17 (Ref:897757)   #24
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And I thought Franchetti was
Fran-Ketty

But when Dario did a little "Hi i'm Dario..." on channel ten he said "Fran-Kee-tee"...
Hello, Hazza,

His name is Franchitti, not Franchetti, so it had to sound Frankeetee.

In Italian the sound made by the letter c depends on the vowel placed after it. If it is an a, o, or u, it sounds like an English "k". But if the c is followed by an e or an i, it sounds like "tsch".

In order to make sounds like "ke" and "ki" an h is inserted between the c and the vowel - creating che and chi.

So:

Italian spelling >> sound
ca >> ka
ce >> tsche
ci >> tschee
co >> ko
cu >> koo
che >> ke
chi >> kee (like Franchitti - and my own name!)

Cheers,

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Old 8 Mar 2004, 09:05 (Ref:897808)   #25
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I've noticed that Martin Brundle sometimes seems to have trouble pronouncing DC's name.

Sometimes it's CoultHard others it's Coult-ard.

Being his manager, i thought Martin would know his own drivers name by now
LOL.Maybe he would learn it if he could be bothered,huh?

"Hey martin,do you have any drivers on your books looking for seats?We're shopping round right now."

"um,no one fast enough for you to be interested in"


Hey,there's some really interesting replies by Muzza.Well done
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