Peugeot 908 discussion - Page 13

Rennen · 3 Feb 2011, 14:48 (Ref:2825163)

Why change a winning design?...Car looks gorgeous!...It's at lot slimmer, lower and sleeker than last years car from the side view.

gwyllion · 3 Feb 2011, 14:49 (Ref:2825164)

High resolution pictures on http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/endu...3726&titre=90x
Someone needs to tell the Peugeot Sport webmaster that the car is called 908 instead of 90x

Tom908V12 · 3 Feb 2011, 14:50 (Ref:2825165)

Can't wait for Sebring now, where the 908(Peugeot-Sport Total)will be confronted to the 908(ORECA Matmut)

WMUCarGuy · 3 Feb 2011, 14:50 (Ref:2825166)

I wonder if they're still using the same tub as the old car. It looks very similar.

arakis · 3 Feb 2011, 14:52 (Ref:2825168)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

I wonder if they're still using the same tub as the old car. It looks very similar.

they said only the wipers are the same as the old car, so the answer is no

gwyllion · 3 Feb 2011, 14:54 (Ref:2825169)

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Originally Posted by 19dodge

SPEED.com's photo gallery of the 908 Launch:

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...ot-908-launch/

This link works better: http://photos.speedtv.com/gallery/LE...eot_908_Unveil

Victor_RO · 3 Feb 2011, 14:54 (Ref:2825170)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

High resolution pictures on http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/endu...3726&titre=90x
Someone needs to tell the Peugeot Sport webmaster that the car is called 908 instead of 90x

Did they ask Wurz to sit on his knees in the photo where all 9 drivers are standing behind the car?

He can't be only that much taller than Davidson.

NightStalk3r · 3 Feb 2011, 14:55 (Ref:2825171)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Did they ask Wurz to sit on his knees in the photo where all 9 drivers are standing behind the car?

He can't be only that much taller than Davidson.

Looks like Davidson is standing on a chair.

chernaudi · 3 Feb 2011, 15:02 (Ref:2825175)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Front wheels just aren't wide enough IMO.

Peugeot Sport PR at their site seems to contradict this, as it's claimed that the 908 (the new one) was designed for the same tires as the R18.

Victor_RO · 3 Feb 2011, 15:04 (Ref:2825178)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chernaudi

Peugeot Sport PR at their site seems to contradict this, as it's claimed that the 908 (the new one) was designed for the same tires as the R18.

I detect a broken irony detector.

chernaudi · 3 Feb 2011, 15:13 (Ref:2825180)

Don't believe me: http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/endu...es-fronts.html

There's even a section highlighted called "Four Identical Wheels".

There has been issues, according to Peugeot, of a lack of front mechanical grip with modern LMPs since the days of the retired of the R8. Shorter wheel base and engines being moved forward and wider wheels and tires should fix that. Hence the rumors of Audi wanting to do the same with the R15, and having done so with the R18.

The Acura ARX-02 showed that the concept can work. But until tires actually designed for the job were made, it wouldn't be entirely satisfactory. Audi and Peugeot paid Michelin to develop those tires, Acura/HPD/Wirth didn't.

Victor_RO · 3 Feb 2011, 15:16 (Ref:2825181)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Don't believe me: http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/endu...es-fronts.html

There's even a section highlighted called "Four Identical Wheels".

Irony-speak/hyperbole for "those wheels are enormously wide" = "Front wheels just aren't wide enough". Not every comment needs to be taken 100% seriously.

gwyllion · 3 Feb 2011, 15:22 (Ref:2825183)

Someone on the EI forum posted the driver lineup for the different ILMC races.

12H of Sebring (ALMS):
- N°7 : Alexander Wurz / Anthony Davidson / Marc Gené
- N°8 : Franck Montagny / Nicolas Minassian / Stéphane Sarrazin

1000 km of Spa (LMS):
- N°7 : Alexander Wurz / Anthony Davidson / Marc Gené
- N°8 : Franck Montagny / Nicolas Minassian / Stéphane Sarrazin
- N°9 : Sébastien Bourdais / Pedro Lamy / Simon Pagenaud

24H of Le Mans:
- N°7 : Alexander Wurz / Anthony Davidson / Marc Gené
- N°8 : Franck Montagny / Nicolas Minassian / Stéphane Sarrazin
- N°9 : Sébastien Bourdais / Pedro Lamy / Simon Pagenaud

6H of Imola (LMS):
- N°7 : Sébastien Bourdais / Anthony Davidson
- N°8 : Franck Montagny / Stéphane Sarrazin

6H of Silverstone (LMS):
- N°7 : Sébastien Bourdais / Anthony Davidson
- N°8 : Franck Montagny / Stéphane Sarrazin

Petit Le Mans (ALMS):
- N°7 : Sébastien Bourdais / Anthony Davidson / Pedro Lamy
- N°8 : Franck Montagny / Stéphane Sarrazin / Alexander Wurz

China:
- N°7 : Sébastien Bourdais / Anthony Davidson
- N°8 : Franck Montagny / Stéphane Sarrazin

source: http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...144751#p144751

Victor_RO · 3 Feb 2011, 15:24 (Ref:2825186)

So Davidson, Sarrazin and Montagny will be doing all 7 races... interesting re-shuffle for Petit Le Mans though compared to the Spa/LM trios.

gwyllion · 3 Feb 2011, 15:39 (Ref:2825191)

Pagenaud only does Spa and Le Mans. Perhaps this means that he is free to do ALMS with Highcroft.

NightStalk3r · 3 Feb 2011, 15:40 (Ref:2825192)

Nice comparison shot

http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2011/...3534205942.jpg

Mal · 3 Feb 2011, 15:43 (Ref:2825194)

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Originally Posted by Mal

it may still be 908 - the recent 908 wasn't the first LM car to carry that number.

Lola T70 · 3 Feb 2011, 16:02 (Ref:2825205)

Just got back from work and was a bit surprised that is was......basically the same car as the test car spy shot.

Am sure it is a big evolution under the skin based around about a smaller lighter V8.

vyselegend · 3 Feb 2011, 16:19 (Ref:2825210)

This concept of calling the new car a 908 is very confusing!

Only reason for it is to keep it in line with modern productions 308 (renewed soon), 408 (South America & Asia only), 508 (launched today) and also the 3008. The 208 should be launched next year too.

So one can understand the marketing need for the 908 name, but still, they could at least call it something like 908+, 908 evo 2, 908 II, 908 V8 or whatever they want to differ from the former 908 HDI FAP (which everyone calls 908 already, and furthermore the lack of official 'HDI FAP' designation on the new one doesn't help much since it is a HDI FAP engine... sigh)

I guess we'll have to take the initiative by ourselves to call it 908 II in order to avoid too much confusion in cars and race topics, especially since both generations of 908 will race together indeed...

Acid09 · 3 Feb 2011, 16:25 (Ref:2825213)

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Originally Posted by vyselegend

This concept of calling the new car a 908 is very confusing!

Only reason for it is to keep it in line with modern productions 308 (renewed soon), 408 (South America & Asia only), 508 (launched today) and also the 3008. The 208 should be launched next year too.

So one can understand the marketing need for the 908 name, but still, they could at least call it something like 908+, 908 evo 2, 908 II, 908 V8 or whatever they want to differ from the former 908 HDI FAP (which everyone calls 908 already, and furthermore the lack of official 'HDI FAP' designation on the new one doesn't help much since it is a HDI FAP engine... sigh)

I guess we'll have to take the initiative by ourselves to call it 908 II in order to avoid too much confusion in cars and race topics, especially since both generations of 908 will race together indeed...

That's the only real problem I have with the car as well...

After the innitial disappointment has worn off, I have to say I´m optimistic about the new 908. It looks even more beautiful than the original 908 and I trust that the Peugeot engineers know what they´re doing.

Fancy aerodynamics don't equal speed, the original R15 has shown that...

Deleted · 3 Feb 2011, 16:58 (Ref:2825225)

It does look a little bit better from the side angle. Also, the shark fin with Pug livery doesn't look as noticeable and retarded as with R18.

I also love how F1sport... I mean Autosport have still not said a word about the launch!

**Bentley03** · 3 Feb 2011, 17:00 (Ref:2825227)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Someone needs to tell the Peugeot Sport webmaster that the car is called 908 instead of 90x

Yep, lots of typos.....

Alex Davidson?

"After a strong season in 2011, which saw it claim the inaugural Intercontinental Le Mans Cup (ILMC) title, Peugeot Sport will be looking to defend its crown........" Getting a bit ahead of themselves!

Victor_RO · 3 Feb 2011, 17:01 (Ref:2825228)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

I also love how F1sport... I mean Autosport have still not said a word about the launch!

I think that's something to do with someone not being able to translate French.

Oh, and the small matter of a F1 test day in Valencia.

P.S. Imagine if one of these cars casually rolled out of a garage while the F1 folk were out there testing...

Lola T70 · 3 Feb 2011, 19:46 (Ref:2825312)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acid09

That's the only real problem I have with the car as well...

After the innitial disappointment has worn off, I have to say I´m optimistic about the new 908. It looks even more beautiful than the original 908 and I trust that the Peugeot engineers know what they´re doing.

Fancy aerodynamics don't equal speed, the original R15 has shown that...

Acid 09, I never thought I would see the day when you said that there was a problem with a Peugeot or were disappointed with anything they did. You are their number 1 fan and biggest supporter.

But know I think you may even wear an Audi cap one day

Car looks sleek all the same.

Victor_RO · 3 Feb 2011, 20:10 (Ref:2825327)

The major question remaining about this car is...

... where are the exhaust exits? They're not in front of the front wheels like they were on the previous 908, I don't see exhaust outlets on the engine cover (at least not in the photos we have seen so far), so... are they blowing into the diffuser by any chance?

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