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6 May 2017, 04:51 (Ref:3731387)
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And on motorsport.com too, not a happy camper.
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6 May 2017, 05:47 (Ref:3731392)
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Chris Lambden got pretty stuck in on the whole topic in AA this week, Supercars gets a few mentions too
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Honestly given Supercars organisation non-involvement, this is a non-story.
Certain people who are suppliers to Supercars are trying to protect their interests but Chris Lambden is way off base with his vitriol.
Plus also... How can you get so upset of a "copycat" of something that is a "copycat" of an old Formula...
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6 May 2017, 08:43 (Ref:3731409)
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I'd think that Supercars does still have an involvement when you consider that they actually own the rights to the category.
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6 May 2017, 11:20 (Ref:3731445)
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It's not fair you've copied my copy! Lol
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7 May 2017, 00:13 (Ref:3731782)
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Honestly given Supercars organisation non-involvement, this is a non-story.
Certain people who are suppliers to Supercars are trying to protect their interests but Chris Lambden is way off base with his vitriol.
Plus also... How can you get so upset of a "copycat" of something that is a "copycat" of an old Formula...
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Why isn't their a thumbs up option on this website well said
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7 May 2017, 01:23 (Ref:3731798)
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The more logical question right now is how CAMS allowed 2 almost identical open wheeler categories to develop in parallel..
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7 May 2017, 02:35 (Ref:3731801)
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The more logical question right now is how CAMS allowed 2 almost identical open wheeler categories to develop in parallel..
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Does CAMS have a place where people are working on a possible future category with their own aims and interests?
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7 May 2017, 03:22 (Ref:3731811)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mixer
Honestly given Supercars organisation non-involvement, this is a non-story.
Certain people who are suppliers to Supercars are trying to protect their interests but Chris Lambden is way off base with his vitriol.
Plus also... How can you get so upset of a "copycat" of something that is a "copycat" of an old Formula...
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What a load of rubbish. Supercars own the design, how is that non-involvement?
Your comment about Lambden's idea being just a "copycat" of an old formula is ridiculous. That is like saying V8Supercars is just a copycat of the original years of Group C. It's a modern rule-set using principles that proved successful in the past....just like the basis for V8Supercars
Supercars have a history of spraying vitriol of things they consider to be "copycat" formula's anyway, remember Junior Touring? Or is that OK because it's Supercars and they can do anything they want?
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It's not fair you've copied my copy! Lol
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Please explain?
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The more logical question right now is how CAMS allowed 2 almost identical open wheeler categories to develop in parallel..
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CAMS has proven itself to be pretty spineless especially over the last few years.
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7 May 2017, 04:36 (Ref:3731818)
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Thing is, you can have a ft5000 for 250k which has an engine which can run to 10k before major maintenance or another which will cost north of 400 with an engine requiring 5k rebuilds and the need for a dedicated engine technician at each round. The "other" 5000 doesn't even utilise a stressed rear end.
What they have though is the ability to support supercar rounds. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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7 May 2017, 10:23 (Ref:3731889)
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What a load of rubbish. Supercars own the design, how is that non-involvement?
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Why not wind yourself up some more.
Supercars in this case is a non-practicing entity, they did some design work, which they retain the rights to.
People like Fiorinotto are behind this and I can't see it ever seeing the light of day, for various reasons.
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8 May 2017, 02:45 (Ref:3732099)
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Quote:
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The more logical question right now is how CAMS allowed 2 almost identical open wheeler categories to develop in parallel..
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This is the key point.
Using the TCR example here as a comparison
The relationship between CAMS and Supercars also comes into question here.
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8 May 2017, 03:18 (Ref:3732105)
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It's nothing new in motorsport, regardless of discipline.
There'll always be multiple governing bodies, catagories that overlap, breakaway series, etc. It all boils down to egos and money in the end.
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8 May 2017, 08:46 (Ref:3732149)
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Quote:
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The more logical question right now is how CAMS allowed 2 almost identical open wheeler categories to develop in parallel..
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does CAMS have any right to stop a person running a business?
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8 May 2017, 09:08 (Ref:3732153)
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Well at some point one of them will wish to seek some sort of affiliation with CAMS.
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16 May 2017, 08:20 (Ref:3733759)
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https://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/mo...o-race-in-2018
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Supercars told Wheels it was never the intention compete directly with Lambden’s proposed formula. “We thought the two would be distinctly different, his more at an enthusiasts level.”
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