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Old 4 Jul 2005, 12:23 (Ref:1346800)   #16
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Eifellund's modified version of the March chassis had some very strange wings and other aerodynamic modifications - and it looks as if the driver's view would have been obscured by them. On a techncial level the W12 engine Life built was unique as well, although superficially the car looked like any other slow F1 car of the era.
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Old 4 Jul 2005, 12:35 (Ref:1346817)   #17
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Brabham BT34 Lobster Claw of 1971

The Fan-car was the BT46B which raced and was then banned.
Yes, the old crab claw Brabham, very distinctive - I think Graham hill won his last ever F1 race in it (not a championship event though), at Silverstone. We, occasionally, see this out in historics.

I don't think the BT46B fan car was actually banned - see my post earlier!
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Old 4 Jul 2005, 12:59 (Ref:1346837)   #18
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Keeping in the 6 wheel vein
Think back to a time when the drivers where real men and raced in short sleeves
What about the Auto Union V16 Type C/D's and Merc W's from the 30's (actually its probably OT as I think they were Hill climb versions)
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Old 4 Jul 2005, 13:07 (Ref:1346841)   #19
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Yes, mixxer, I think they were hillclimb versions when fitted with twin rear wheels. Not off topic though since the Auto Union was both weird and wonderful; the W125, just wonderful, with or without the extra wheels!

What about the Bimotore Alfas - engines in front and rear - fearsome!
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Old 4 Jul 2005, 13:10 (Ref:1346844)   #20
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Eifellund's modified version of the March chassis had some very strange wings and other aerodynamic modifications - and it looks as if the driver's view would have been obscured by them. On a techncial level the W12 engine Life built was unique as well, although superficially the car looked like any other slow F1 car of the era.
I was just about to mention the March 711 with it's "tea tray" front wing...



Hmmm.... I wonder who will be the first to remind us what the "M" in March stands for.... but while I was looking for March 711 pictures I found the Eifelland... isn't she a beauty?

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Old 4 Jul 2005, 13:19 (Ref:1346853)   #21
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I don't think the BT46B fan car was actually banned - see my post earlier!
As you said John it only raced in 1 championship race and it won however the FIA banned it straight away, the team tried to tell the FIA the fan was actually for cooling (true story)

Most of the design was based on the same princible as the Chapparal "sucker" sports car from the early 60s ('61 I think)

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What about the Bimotore Alfas - engines in front and rear - fearsome!
Definitely, good choice
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As you said John it only raced in 1 championship race and it won however the FIA banned it straight away, the team tried to tell the FIA the fan was actually for cooling (true story)
Just to be pedantic and argumentative, but also attempting to be historically accurate, fans were banned after the event, not the car, which was 'never declared illegal, nor was it disqualified from that Swedish Grand Prix success' (quoted from 'Brabham' by Alan Henry - Ive just looked it up!); hence my earlier statement.
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Old 4 Jul 2005, 13:36 (Ref:1346866)   #23
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Actually, I'm going to correct myself; it was actually banned subsequently by the CSI, the technical commission of the sports governing body despite the fact that they agreed with Gordon Murray's contention that the fan was for 70% cooling and 30% suction!! In fact, Henry's book contradicts itself here. Fascinating - must read up about it, in detail.
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Old 4 Jul 2005, 13:45 (Ref:1346871)   #24
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I've just thought of another - the 1961 Ferguson - Climax P99. Front engine when all other F1 cars had gone over to rear engine, it had 4WD - Moss won a non-championship race with it at Oulton Park (I think)
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Tyrrell did a few innovative things over the years, despite being permanently underfunded - the "X-Wings" first appeared on Tyrrell 025 & they also tried wishbones completely filled in as aerodynamic apendages.
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Old 4 Jul 2005, 13:52 (Ref:1346878)   #28
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Tried to fish out a few pics of some of the cars previously mentioned:

The Brabham BT46 B fan car


The Brabham BT34 lobster claw


Found this Brabham BT24 with double ended wings?
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Old 4 Jul 2005, 13:57 (Ref:1346881)   #29
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I reckon that wing has collapsed, I don't recall any car having a wing like that.

Cheers for he pics everybody
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Great pics, IL LEONE. The last one looks like its acquired a roof blown off of an old garden shed.

Mixxer, this is IL LEONE's thread, so since it is not ours, I think we can vote for it. I'm now about to try!
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