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Old 8 Apr 2007, 12:33 (Ref:1886359)   #1
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Mark Webber - 87 starts, 1 podium.
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 12:36 (Ref:1886369)   #2
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There are similarities, their team mate was always one place higher on the podium.
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 12:38 (Ref:1886372)   #3
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 12:53 (Ref:1886383)   #4
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Both have team mates that drove/drive a Mclaren.
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 13:48 (Ref:1886407)   #5
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both earned points on their debut
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 14:11 (Ref:1886413)   #6
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Fernando Alonso - 91 Starts, 40 Podiums, 17 Wins, 2 WDCs
Kimi Räikkönen - 107 Starts, 38 Podiums, 10 Wins
Rubens Barrichello - 238 Starts. 61 Podiums, 9 Wins
David Coulthard - 214 Starts, 61 Podiums, 13 Wins
Ralf Schumacher - 167 Starts, 27 podiums, 6 Wins
Giancarlo Fisichella - 181 Starts, 18 Podiums, 3 Wins
Jenson Button - 122 Starts, 15 Podiums, 1 Win
Nick Heidfeld - 120 Starts, 5 Podiums
Takuma Sato - 73 Starts, 1 Podium
Nico Rosberg - 20 Starts, 0 Podiums
Anthony Davidson - 5 Starts, 0 Podiums
Michael Schumacher - 250 Starts, 154 Podiums, 91 Wins, 7 WDCs

Lots of different numbers. What was the point of this thread again?
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 14:11 (Ref:1886415)   #7
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both earned points on their debut
One in a very good car and one in a very bad car.
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 14:29 (Ref:1886426)   #8
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Comparable situations obviously!

It's interesting this. I wonder if our resident statistician, Schummy, can come up with a "hype/results co-efficient".

It must be pretty galling for folk like Jenson Button also, who waited over four seasons to make the podium. Although he has more than one at least, which is some consolation!

But yes, two starts, two podiums. Very impressive indeed.
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 14:38 (Ref:1886433)   #9
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Mark Webber - 87 starts, 1 podium.
Lewis Hamilton - 2 starts, 2 podiums.

Discuss.
Well, after analysing that very complicated data, using various methods and aparatus/software I have reached a conclusion. Now I might be wrong on this, but here goes.

Hamilton is a)in a better car than Webber ever was
b) a better driver than Webber ever was.

That's what I came up with anyway
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 14:47 (Ref:1886437)   #10
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Similarities : both were hyped immensely by their respective medias.
Differences: Only one has lived up to it so far.
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 14:55 (Ref:1886440)   #11
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Hamilton started in a Mclaren. Webbers first 2 races were in a Minardi. If Webber had started in one of the best 4 cars on the grid it's quite possible he could have got podiums as well.
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 15:14 (Ref:1886449)   #12
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Well, after analysing that very complicated data, using various methods and aparatus/software I have reached a conclusion. Now I might be wrong on this, but here goes.

Hamilton is a)in a better car than Webber ever was
b) a better driver than Webber ever was.

That's what I came up with anyway
100% agree.

And repeat after dsg: what is the point of this tread?
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 15:23 (Ref:1886455)   #13
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What is more pointless? Starting a pointless thread or joining a pointless thread!

I think there are several points behind the posting of this thread. Especially when you have a feel for 10-10ths. Even considered straight this thread includes many discussion points. How good is the rookie Hamilton compared to an established racer like Webber? The differences in how the two careers have developed are striking and worth discussion.

Of course the main point is a bit of playful banter. This may go unnoticed if you take it too seriously
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 15:31 (Ref:1886461)   #14
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At the moment the point of this thread is to have a quick dig at our Ozzie cousins while they're mostly tucked up in bed.

I believe that Webber was under Flav's wing when he came into F1,and for one reason or another wasn't/isn't considered good enough for a seat at Renault.There may have been contractual issues,but as we've seen before,nothing that can't be got around to get what you want.
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Old 8 Apr 2007, 16:48 (Ref:1886499)   #15
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I think if anything I'm not sure that the recent race was that favorable to Hamilton.
Pros: Once again he proves that he's quiet good at dicing it up with other cars on the track. He doesn't cave under pressure.
Cons: Alonso obliterated him in the first stint. 3 laps of extra fuel don't come anywhere close to accounting for it. Massa was held up more by Hamilton than by Heidfeld.

What about comparing Hamilton's early performances to Kubica's and Nico's first races. You may have to forget citizenship for a second.

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