Dailysportscar vs Sportscar365

[Deleted]

In the world of specialized sportscar news sites, I'm fairly sure most of us would agree that two of the biggest and most insighful ones out there right now are DSC and S365. There are other more general sites of course, such as Racer.com with always on point Marshall Pruett now providing (mainly IMSA) sportscars in addition to IndyCar, and Motorsport Total in German and some limited stuff on Autosport with Gary Watkins and other sources too. Smaller independent sites and bloggers provide specialist news too. But let's focus on the two listed in the title.

Sportscar365 is the brainchild of John Dagys, former sportscar representative for speed.com as well as to FOX today, providing news from all around the world with the help of his collegues. Dailysportscar of course is much older of the two publications, with plenty of known people behind it too, and during the last few years has gone from mostly-subscription-only services to providing free articles site wide.

So, which do you prefer, which is the first (or only) site you click when you want to find some updates? Or are they on the same level?

Any reason goes. The Covered series, quality of writing, attitude of writers etc

Myself (just my opinion so don't shoot Graham and gang )
While I enjoy DSC and find many things out there not available anywhere else, with minor obscure little series in particular, I do have to choose Sportscar365. Dagys and gang are great in coming out with MASSES of content, and not only when it comes to regular news and session results but also plenty of speculation. Now I know some people can get kinda irritated on such things, you know "guesses and half-promises" but I don't see any harm in fishing for such things. And when it comes to scoops, they wouldn't come around if someone didn't dig in and go public - as I've said before, had it not been for Dagys we probably wouldn't have heard of IMSA-NASCAR fusion week before Daytona 2014 Also, this might be a more nitpicky point, but I find S365 much more modern and accessible design wise, the article forms and pacing on DSC seem a bit as if they were written in 1999. Now they have improved quite bit even this year, now there are actual tables and better aligned text lines, but it's still not quite there. Especially with long lists. Anyway, all in all, I enjoy them both....

Oh an the only thing I really (well "really) dislike about S365 is the phrase "twice-around-the-clock-French-endurance-classic" and variations of such used in too many articles

[jasonjessica09]

Originally Posted by Chiana

In the world of specialized sportscar news sites, I'm fairly sure most of us would agree that two of the biggest and most insighful ones out there right now are DSC and S365. There are other more general sites of course, such as Racer.com with always on point Marshall Pruett now providing (mainly IMSA) sportscars in addition to IndyCar, and Motorsport Total in German and some limited stuff on Autosport with Gary Watkins and other sources too. Smaller independent sites and bloggers provide specialist news too. But let's focus on the two listed in the title.

Sportscar365 is the brainchild of John Dagys, former sportscar representative for speed.com as well as to FOX today, providing news from all around the world with the help of his collegues. Dailysportscar of course is much older of the two publications, with plenty of known people behind it too, and during the last few years has gone from mostly-subscription-only services to providing free articles site wide.

So, which do you prefer, which is the first (or only) site you click when you want to find some updates? Or are they on the same level?

Any reason goes. The Covered series, quality of writing, attitude of writers etc

Myself (just my opinion so don't shoot Graham and gang )
While I enjoy DSC and find many things out there not available anywhere else, with minor obscure little series in particular, I do have to choose Sportscar365. Dagys and gang are great in coming out with MASSES of content, and not only when it comes to regular news and session results but also plenty of speculation. Now I know some people can get kinda irritated on such things, you know "guesses and half-promises" but I don't see any harm in fishing for such things. And when it comes to scoops, they wouldn't come around if someone didn't dig in and go public - as I've said before, had it not been for Dagys we probably wouldn't have heard of IMSA-NASCAR fusion week before Daytona 2014 Also, this might be a more nitpicky point, but I find S365 much more modern and accessible design wise, the article forms and pacing on DSC seem a bit as if they were written in 1999. Now they have improved quite bit even this year, now there are actual tables and better aligned text lines, but it's still not quite there. Especially with long lists. Anyway, all in all, I enjoy them both.

I am very happy that we have both sites. You can connect DSC to Racer as they post Marshall's stuff. S365 is just awesome. Lots of stuff everyday and they are certainly the premier site for IMSA and Blancpain GT related content. DSC is ahead with WEC. Overall I'd got with S365.

[Deleted]

Yeah they started linking up some of MP's articles to DSC and vice versa this spring right?

Co-operation is good

[J Jay]

I'll typically check out S365 more times in a day or week, because if it's breaking news it's usually there first, but I'll spend more time reading DSC articles and features that cover aspects of endurance racing that I'm interested in in greater depth. Apologies for the mind-numbingly diplomatic answer, but it's the truth this time I swear...

Honestly I'm happy for the diversified content and styles between the two sites; more choice is never a bad thing.

[Deleted]

For me personally I think the gap between the "Option Dagys" vs "Option Europe" has actually closed down quite bit in favor of DSC, even though I still prefer S365. Because before S365 existed and there was just speed.com from Dagys, DSC was like 95% subscription service, so I couldn't read them even if I wanted to. I suspect the popularity of the US front, and also increased amount of same content elsewhere, let DSC to loosen up and give more free stuff. But I might be wrong in that, I don't know the details.

[Articus]

and before speed.com existed and there was just Dagys and The-Paddock.net . Wow that's a throwback lol. I didn't realize Dagy's was the author of the PAddock.net until many years after the site shut down.

[ATLFalconsFAN]

No question that DSC is the preferred source for sports car news. I find them to be much more professional and impartial. I've seen Dagys rant about things on a personal nature that came off as a spoiled brat and not becoming of a professional reporter. He also comes across as though IMSA/NASCAR whatever you want to call it has him in their back pocket as an exclusive source of news. The driver spotlights are annoying as it just screams so much NASCAR (the cars are the stars, right?). DSC has better quality photos and unquestionably always have much better race previews.

I do however appreciate the news and notes from SC365. As someone else pointed out, there is always much more speculation on SC365, some good and some bad. I appreciate what Dagys has done on his own and there's no question he is a hard worker. However after meeting him a few times in person the guy just rubs me the wrong way. One thing in particular that happened where he came across very pompous.

Happy though that both are around and I do frequent both sites.

[Matt]

SCOOPSCLUSIVE.

a

[porsche91722]

They are both great, and sports car racing fans are lucky to have two first rate sites to get info from. I'd agree with the comment that Sportscar365 is a little bit easier to navigate around.
I've gotten the general impression that there is a degree of angst between them, perhaps a little more than journalistic competition. Could be completely wrong and a perception on my part perhaps.
We met John Dagys at Bathurst a couple of years ago and he was an easy going dude, up for a chat.

[kurski]

S365 is a co-operation somebody Endurance-Info journalist. Both amazing website, hard to choose which one better

[seanyb505]

DSC hands down. The way sc365 is quick to discredit imsa's competition but laps up anything imsa related as manna is painful to watch.

[rich07]

I was just thinking about this in the last couple of days weirdly enough -what are you a mind reader Chiana?

I'm a fan of both as in my eyes they complement each other with their different styles and coverage of different series. Between those two they really do have the scene covered.

But I have to say I prefer DSC, it might seem a bit older and not as cutting edge but maybe that's it's appeal to me. Big fan of Graham Goodwin and the team and they keep me checking the page everyday day a few times to see what's new. I see DSC as not just news but also articles/interviews about cars/races/drivers/periods in sportscar history which S365 doesn't have. That's what sets the two apart for me also, S365 seems to be more of a news only site whereas DSC go back in time and look at history which really interests me.

Not a slight against Dagys at all, I really enjoy his TUSC coverage and it appears their Blancpain coverage is growing all the time.

I think it would be weird without one or the other. I know S365 hasn't been around as long as DSC but you had it's predecessor in the-paddock.net which I really liked for it's coverage of anything and everything sportscars and was saddened to see go.

[tux]

I like both, admittedly i don't read many of the articles but the gallery's are a great source of wallpaper size images.

One great feature of DSC is the ability to still access the archived race reports and articles, i love going back and reminding me self of past events.

[Accident]

I generally like the random articles and commentary things on DSC a better, but SC365 does have a much better layout, and the comments are often filled with bickering over pointless things which is amusing at times.

The one thing that really annoys me about SC365 is that there is no spoiler-free version of it. I hate going to check out some qualifying or pre-race notes or whatever from a TUSC race only to have the results of the CTSCC race spoiled for me, or since I usually can't watch the BES races live I have to try to avoid seeing the results over there and it often means I just don't bother going to the site at all.

It couldn't be hard for a programmer to add a little tag to articles with spoilers and then make a link at the top of the page for a "spoiler-free" version that only loads articles with that spoiler tag.

[Acid09]

Generally I'd give the nudge to S365 for simply being more modern and being somewhat more on the pulse of things.

Also, Dagys comes off as more impartial than DSC when it comes to certain subjects. DSC's heavy Nissan sponsorship was not much of an issue when the company didn't do much high-profile racing but now that they're in LMP1 it's pretty obvious that DSC can't cover them the way they would another factory effort.

While there were plenty of journalists out there who kept on asking hard-hitting questions regarding the programme (guys like Marcus Schurig, Motorsport-Total), DSC seems to be forced to do softball coverage to not anger their main sponsor.

It seems like Dagys feels more comfortable to cover things that the "establishment" won't talk about. His biggest victory has to be the scoop on the IMSA/ALMS merger, that was truly investigative journalism one would expect from a site like DSC.

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by rich07

I was just thinking about this in the last couple of days weirdly enough -what are you a mind reader Chiana?

My wisdom is both a blessing and a curse.

[GT3.14]

Prefer DSC hands down for the quality of the content. However, DSC is difficult to read on my mobile so I usually go to S365 when I am looking for headlines while I am out. If DSC had a mobile layout I would probably go there exclusively.

Not a big fan of S365's crash video postings and occasional sensationalism, it's a little click-baity. And have you seen the comments section of a S365 article? It's almost as bad as reading the Nissan P1 thread on that ten-tenths website.

[bentley speed 8]

I use both, although I do check out S365 more often than DSC. Do think they are both on the same level though

[TF110]

My answer is both and neither. I dont find any one better than the other. I prefer twitter actually. The news on there is from any source so you can do sc365, dsc, motorsport.com, e-i etc. All in short to-the-point mini paragraphs.

[Simmi]

As others have said they are both great sites. As fans we're lucky to have them.

Really been impressed with Motorsport.com too this year since Sam Smith has come on board. Super analysis and a lot of exclusives now. Obviously that site got a lot of stick in the past. I'd hope MWM collective have lifted their "ban" on posting their content. Deleted it off my Facebook so not sure.

[tux]

Originally Posted by Simmi

As others have said they are both great sites. As fans we're lucky to have them.

Really been impressed with Motorsport.com too this year since Sam Smith has come on board. Super analysis and a lot of exclusives now. Obviously that site got a lot of stick in the past. I'd hope MWM collective have lifted their "ban" on posting their content. Deleted it off my Facebook so not sure.

Nope, but then things like last weekends tweet really dont help Motorsport.com.

[Deleted]

Last weekends tweet?

[Matt]

I found it funny how Dagys completely blacklisted PWC after they refused him some credentials for something.

Especially when he went off on twitter about it too.

[jasonjessica09]

Originally Posted by tux

Nope, but then things like last weekends tweet really dont help Motorsport.com.

What is his the history of that site?

[tux]

Originally Posted by Chiana

Last weekends tweet?

Sorry for taking the thread off topic but they tweeted about the tragic superbike accident at Laguna Seca, posting a link to the video and a still photo from said video, it was all very crude.

Anyway, its not really relevant to this topic, so i probably shouldn't have bought it up.