BTCC 2019 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 69

Ry44 · 2 Dec 2018, 22:24 (Ref:3867516)

https://twitter.com/autosport/status...570071554?s=19
How interesting wonder who that could be with

Evantra · 2 Dec 2018, 22:33 (Ref:3867518)

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Originally Posted by Ry44

https://twitter.com/autosport/status...570071554?s=19
How interesting wonder who that could be with

Nothing against him, but given his results in Clios this year that'll be a bit of a wasted seat if it happens, especially if it's in place of someone like Goff, Hill, Lloyd...

Craner Curves · 3 Dec 2018, 01:27 (Ref:3867548)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Nothing against him, but given his results in Clios this year that'll be a bit of a wasted seat if it happens, especially if it's in place of someone like Goff, Hill, Lloyd...

You are aware 99% of the grid bring funds, even those guys you mention? I don't see a problem.

el_cat · 3 Dec 2018, 06:27 (Ref:3867571)

Although I get the point, it wouldn’t be a “wasted seat”. The drive goes to whoever brings the budget - if none of the aforementioned have sufficient backing, then the likliehood is the “seat” wouldn’t exist anymore

Alfisti · 3 Dec 2018, 08:17 (Ref:3867579)

Whether Nic struggles or succeeds - and I hope the latter - he will attract mainstream media coverage and that is a plus for the series and motorsport overall.

I would be inclined to think the drive will be in one of the four AmD run cars - purely on past association. It's entirely possible, even probable, big brother Lewis's personal sponsors will be involved, which would potentially produce a good budget to race with.

btccbloke · 3 Dec 2018, 08:27 (Ref:3867580)

Am I a fan of Nic? No
Do I think he is only really getting there because of his name? Yes
Do I think there are better drivers available? Yes

But the important one:
Do I think his money will keep a team running for the full season? Yes

I can name about 10 better drivers in Clio cup last season who would be more competitive: Epps, Dorlin, Mccarthy, Rivett,.. even Edwards but none of these have major sponsors like Jet fuel or Monster fizzy pop to fund them.

AMD may seem the obvious choice due to past associations but im going to throw BMR out there as a suggestion.
They desperately need the money and publicity that Nic would provide, especially if JP is off

S griffin · 3 Dec 2018, 09:47 (Ref:3867590)

Of course there are better drivers than Nic, but I agree. If he keeps a team running it's worth it. True he's there because of his name, but he's not that bad. He certainly wasn't miles off the pace when he was first in the BTCC. And driving with a disability must be an inspiration to others

psq43 · 3 Dec 2018, 10:00 (Ref:3867592)

Well Barrie Anderson the king of BTCC hearsay is fairly adamant that it's a done deal we will see Nic in the BTCC.
He hasn't had to resort to bully boy tactics to prove his point yet however....

BobJones · 3 Dec 2018, 10:06 (Ref:3867593)

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Originally Posted by Ry44

https://twitter.com/autosport/status...570071554?s=19
How interesting wonder who that could be with

BTC Norlin.

DaviePHD · 3 Dec 2018, 11:27 (Ref:3867599)

Interesting stuff, I’d be delighted to see Nic Hamilton in the BTCC again. We’d all love to see Motorsport where all that is needed is talent but in the really real world you need cash!

Cash has long been the ladder into racing for drivers without the requisite talent to run at the front. Antony Hamilton blew that to bits by grafting in apparently 4 jobs at once to get Lewis through the junior formulae.

For a long time motorsport was.... well.... a bit Caucasian. Lewis Hamilton has blown that barrier to smithereens and Kudos to him for doing so.

For a little more time Motorsport has been... well... too male! 2019 sees the introduction of a female only single seater category as a potential ladder to assist females into motorsports where they are under represented at the top level.

So given all of that I have no problem with Nic Hamilton being helped into motorsport. Just as I’m sure Billy Monger has had his profile raised by what tragically happened to him. Yes I know Billy was talented before the accident before anyone pipes up.

Perhaps there needs to be more ladders into motorsport for people who are not white, rich, able bodied or male?

**bella** · 3 Dec 2018, 11:31 (Ref:3867600)

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Originally Posted by el_cat

Although I get the point, it wouldn’t be a “wasted seat”. The drive goes to whoever brings the budget - if none of the aforementioned have sufficient backing, then the likliehood is the “seat” wouldn’t exist anymore

quite, given the alternative would likely be someone without the pedigree folk would like to see, a guy like hamilton who brings some really positive attention and visibility for the disabled community... this is good news. him competing means a lot to a lot of people.

Racer65 · 3 Dec 2018, 11:43 (Ref:3867602)

Got a huge amount of respect for Nic so I'll be happy to see him in the BTCC again.

It doesn't matter if there are "better" drivers out there or not. They haven't done what is necessary to get on the grid at the end of the day.

porsche962fan · 3 Dec 2018, 11:51 (Ref:3867604)

currently we have no real clue where Hamilton ends up so can't put him on the list yet

I am sure many teams wold want his $$$ and publicity

btccbloke · 3 Dec 2018, 11:58 (Ref:3867605)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaviePHD

Interesting stuff, I’d be delighted to see Nic Hamilton in the BTCC again. We’d all love to see Motorsport where all that is needed is talent but in the really real world you need cash!

Cash has long been the ladder into racing for drivers without the requisite talent to run at the front. Antony Hamilton blew that to bits by grafting in apparently 4 jobs at once to get Lewis through the junior formulae.

For a long time motorsport was.... well.... a bit Caucasian. Lewis Hamilton has blown that barrier to smithereens and Kudos to him for doing so.

For a little more time Motorsport has been... well... too male! 2019 sees the introduction of a female only single seater category as a potential ladder to assist females into motorsports where they are under represented at the top level.

So given all of that I have no problem with Nic Hamilton being helped into motorsport. Just as I’m sure Billy Monger has had his profile raised by what tragically happened to him. Yes I know Billy was talented before the accident before anyone pipes up.

Perhaps there needs to be more ladders into motorsport for people who are not white, rich, able bodied or male?

This is a very good point, how many people would know of Billy Monger if he was able bodied still? good driver yes, but would he have quite what it takes to get F1 opportunities? I dont know
I hope Nic does alright and as you say for sake of diversity I would like to see a bit more of a mix for the so called top level of British motorsport, I do also think there should/could be more female presence on the grid, Jade Edwards is a prime example of someone who could have a seat and again is almost a guarantee of publicity for the series and a team.

Mark0994 · 3 Dec 2018, 13:13 (Ref:3867612)

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2018...9-btcc-season/

HMS Racing to miss 2019 BTCC season

Will they enforce that Gow wish to run 20+ cars?

Racing Harz · 3 Dec 2018, 13:15 (Ref:3867613)

TOCA Licences:
http://www.btcc.net/2018/12/03/toca-...-championship/

Mark0994 · 3 Dec 2018, 13:17 (Ref:3867614)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racing Harz

TOCA Licences:
http://www.btcc.net/2018/12/03/toca-...-championship/

Thanks

Steel Wheels · 3 Dec 2018, 13:20 (Ref:3867615)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racing Harz

TOCA Licences:
http://www.btcc.net/2018/12/03/toca-...-championship/

Looks like that was the ‘behind the scenes’ movements being rumoured. Shame to see the Alfa won’t be on the grid & confirmed on 30 cars, no ‘loan’ TBL’s being issued.

btccbloke · 3 Dec 2018, 13:21 (Ref:3867616)

No HMS but also note no newly created Jason Plato Super-Team!

Robin Marriott · 3 Dec 2018, 13:42 (Ref:3867617)

That’s a shame, Rob’s one of my favourites and this likely means he won’t be on the grid.

Also that’s only 30 cars so the two TOCA loan TBLs are no more.

crmalcolm · 3 Dec 2018, 13:44 (Ref:3867618)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

1 - 2017:BTC Norlin - 2019:BTC Racing
2 - 2017:BTC Norlin - 2019:BTC Racing
3 - 2017:Handy Motorsport - 2019:Motorbase (on loan)
4 - 2017:Laser Tools Racing - 2019:Aiden Moffat Racing
5 - 2017:Team Dynamics - 2019:Team Dynamics
6 - 2017:Team Dynamics - 2019:Team Dynamics
7 - 2017:Speedworks - 2019:Speedworks Motorsport
8 - 2017:Simpson Racing - 2019:Simpson Racing
9 - 2017:Team Parker Racing - 2019:Team Parker Racing
10- 2017:WSR - 2019:WSR
11- 2017:WSR - 2019:WSR
12- 2017:WSR - 2019:WSR
13- 2017:Eurotech - 2019:AmD Cobra
14- 2017:Eurotech - 2019:AmD Cobra
15- 2017:Ciceley - 2019:Ciceley Motorsport
16- 2017:Maximum Motorsport - 2019:Ciceley Motorsport
17- 2017:Motorbase - 2019:Motorbase
18- 2017:Motorbase - 2019:Motorbase
19- 2017:BMR - 2019:BMR
20- 2017:BMR - 2019:BMR
21- 2017:BMR - 2019:Power Maxed Racing
22- 2017:BMR - 2019:Power Maxed Racing
23- 2017:AmD - 2019:AmD/Trade Price Cars
24- 2017:AmD - 2019:AmD/Trade Price Cars
25- 2017:888 - 2019:Exceler8 Racing
26- 2017:888 - 2019:Exceler8 Racing
27- 2017:Team HARD - 2019:Team HARD
28- 2017:Team HARD - 2019:Team HARD
29- 2017:Team HARD - 2019:Team HARD
30- 2017:Motorbase (Welch) - 2019:Team HARD
31- 2017:PMR (loan) - 2019:TOCA-held
32- 2017:PMR (loan) - 2019:TOCA-held

A good level of consistency in TBL ownership over the last couple of seasons.

I guess for some, this is now confirmation of Tordoff/GardX taking their TBL back from HMS, and getting Motorbase to hold it for them in 2019 (having moved on the other one they owned to PMR) ?!?!?!?

btccbloke · 3 Dec 2018, 13:58 (Ref:3867620)

"Aiden Moffat Racing, 1" - can we gauge from this that he may no longer be associated with Laser tools?

crmalcolm · 3 Dec 2018, 14:00 (Ref:3867622)

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Originally Posted by btccbloke

No HMS but also note no newly created Jason Plato Super-Team!

'Jason Plato has confirmed today that every Subaru Levorg chassis has an integral feature that prevents him from being able to extract the highest level of performance. The team are at a loss to understand why, as Jason is the best driver ever in the history of the BTCC, and he is able to mentor any engineer to provide him with a championship winning car.
Having identified that Rob Austin and his engineers are clearly not at the level of Jason, he has decided to lease the Alfa Romeo from HMS for the 2019 season, and has arranged for BMR to run it alongside a single Subaru entry.
This will mean the BTCC fans will get to see their favourite marque of car, driven by their favourite driver, with the fans favoured sponsor resulting in a team that are the best in the paddock.
Jason is proud to have put all of this together single-handedly and is looking forward to taking his 100th BTCC victory and the championship in 2019.'

Robin Marriott · 3 Dec 2018, 14:01 (Ref:3867623)

Quote:

Originally Posted by btccbloke

"Aiden Moffat Racing, 1" - can we gauge from this that he may no longer be associated with Laser tools?

Nope, none of the other allocations mention sponsors.

crmalcolm · 3 Dec 2018, 14:03 (Ref:3867625)

Quote:

Originally Posted by btccbloke

"Aiden Moffat Racing, 1" - can we gauge from this that he may no longer be associated with Laser tools?

The article refers to teams' sponsorship deals (if not already announced) have not been included.

Unless:
Team Dynamics are no longer associated with Honda Yuasa,
Motorbase are no longer associated with Shredded Wheat,
HARD are no longer associated with TAG....

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